Anyone Else Dislike Most Long Songs?

Rjinn · 08-21-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wisdom

I base my observation on having listened to at least 5000 songs in my life.

Are you serious? I'm 23 and have listened to a hell of a lot more songs than that, and still that's not enough to be a great judge of music.

Key · 08-21-2012, 09:27 PM

^ My last.fm alone is like.... point 2% of what I have listened to in my life.

Neapolitan · 08-21-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wisdom

The team that leads after the first quarter usually wins But this isn't football. Something cohesive enough to be a song probably won't vary much in quality as it runs its course. I base my observation on having listened to at least 5000 songs in my life. I grant you that maybe a longer song demands a slightly longer sample.

If you average that out to four minutes a song that comes to 1 week 6 days 13 hours and 20 minutes of music. That's how much music Howard the Duck listens to in two weeks.

Rjinn · 08-21-2012, 10:22 PM

I'd also like to add. Wisdom you use general philosophy to criticise a whole wide world full of music yet you've only watched 5 minutes into the whole damn movie. So if you're going to write a generalising report, it would make sense that only a fraction of it would be viable.

Howard the Duck · 08-21-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

If you average that out to four minutes a song that comes to 1 week 6 days 13 hours and 20 minutes of music. That's how much music Howard the Duck listens to in two weeks.

erm, make that 4-5 days, i sometimes skip between songs

Neapolitan · 08-21-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

erm, make that 4-5 days, i sometimes skip between songs

That's how long it would take to list to 5000 songs on average of four minutes a peice, but I still believe you could listen to 5000 songs in five days.

Trollheart · 08-22-2012, 01:52 AM

So you're saying .... we're conversing with someone who's five days old, at best?

Not much time to build up all that wisdom, huh?

Rjinn · 08-22-2012, 05:10 AM

It's not only about age or how many songs you've listened to. You disregard listening to music or experiencing some subject then write reports about it based upon intolerance is completely unfounded. There's absolutely no way of taking it seriously. Report writers still go through the experience no matter how unpleasant it is to write something comprehensible which is then backed up with reason taken directly from the source you should be familiar with.

The whole argument was doomed from the start.

sopsych · 08-22-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Dio is acknowledged as one of the most important heavy metal singers ever, and writers, and generally seen as the real "voice" of Rainbow, though of course there are those who don't like him. Not sure what your problem is with him, whether it fits in with your points here or not, ie whether it's because he tends to write longer songs on the whole, but okay that's your choice. Nevertheless, to stop listening to any song after 1 minute just seems weird to me.

Dio was a lousy singer, and his songs are lyrically vapid and repetitive; length magnifies all those flaws. He wasn't exalted by many until he was old.

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Not in any way necessarily. Do you think you've heard every band considered "good" or even "popular"? I hadn't even heard of Sigur Ros until recently, checked them out and really liked them. But you won't find them on the radio or in the charts. Does not in any way invalidate their music though. A band does not have to be popular, or known to you, to be good. Threshold do very well without you, thanks.

A good artist in a modern style is likely to at least get a little music television exposure eventually. Not that I think Sigur Ros is good, but I think I saw a video at least once.

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No, I know, that's why I qualified my own response to reflect what you said. You said you don't get any emotional resonance out of them, which is what I said.

In fact, I used the qualifier "rarely."

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No they don't. Why? Why limit yourself? If you want to explore, say African tribal music and never have before, why not do so? Or Italian disco? Or dubstep? Or death metal? Or grindcore? Why would you limit yourself to not trying these avenues, unless you're actually not interested in them? There are genres I am not interested in, but that doesn't mean I might not be at some point in the future. I don't place a limit on myself, saying you can never explore those genres. What would be the point of that?

Because I can tell those things suck. I have been exposed to bit and pieces of that (except for Italian disco, which I assume isn't far from regular disco).

People are making too big of a deal out of my 5000 songs comment. It was a conservative estimate. Maybe the actual number is 10,000. Also, I mean unique songs (it could be a few millions listens). It hardly matters. The point is the sample size is big, and therefore my observations have a solid basis.

**Janszoon** · 08-22-2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wisdom

A good artist in a modern style is likely to at least get a little music television exposure eventually.

I don't think that's particularly true. There are boatloads of talented people out there making fantastic music. Very few of them are are going to end up on a music television channel.

08-21-2012, 10:22 PM	#184 (permalink)
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08-22-2012, 05:10 AM	#188 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	It's not only about age or how many songs you've listened to. You disregard listening to music or experiencing some subject then write reports about it based upon intolerance is completely unfounded. There's absolutely no way of taking it seriously. Report writers still go through the experience no matter how unpleasant it is to write something comprehensible which is then backed up with reason taken directly from the source you should be familiar with. The whole argument was doomed from the start. __________________ last.fm Last edited by Rjinn; 08-22-2012 at 05:54 AM.

08-21-2012, 09:27 PM	#182 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	^ My last.fm alone is like.... point 2% of what I have listened to in my life.