Anyone Else Dislike Most Long Songs?

sopsych · 09-02-2012, 09:46 PM

Alright, thanks, that supports my assertion. Of course I'd known about Deadheads being drug users. Pink Floyd has a drug-associated reputation, too, and originally was a psychedelic rock band. But it evolved to make some quality long songs.

Yes, "bob." with a period. Anyway, I meant the first time I brought up drugs and song length - either it was ignored then or I have to find that post and check.

Being "stoned" includes being lethargic, right? So doesn't that increase de facto patience?

Key · 09-02-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wisdom

Being "stoned" includes being lethargic, right? So doesn't that increase de facto patience?

No.

I've never used drugs and I have enjoyed long songs for as long as I can remember.

You are way behind now so you'd be better off just saying quits and letting this thread die peacefully.

sopsych · 09-02-2012, 10:09 PM

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Sounds become more distinct, with the user aware of sounds he otherwise might not have noticed. Music, recorded and live, is heard with increased fidelity and dimension, as though there were less distance between the source and the listener.

The process of attention is clearly affected by marijuana. The most obvious effect is to narrow the amount of diverse contents in the focus of attention. The person under marijuana usually perceives fewer objects of attention, which may mean physical objects, actions, social elements, emotions, etc. We have already noted this effect: a person who is high may become absorbed in an object, event, or process to the exclusion of everything else. A train of fantasy may occupy all of a person's attention. This is a psychological analogy of tunnel vision, with the contents of the tunnel expanded.

The Effects of Marijuana on Consciousness

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Acuity
The most characteristic effect of marijuana intoxication is an auditory one: "I can hear more subtle changes in sounds; e.g., the notes of music are purer and more distinct, the rhythm stands out more" (1%, 0%, 4%, 25%, 70%), which is experienced very often or usually by almost all users and occurs at a low level of intoxication (27%, 51%, 17%, 3%, 0%).
Two other items also deal with perceived auditory acuity. A very characteristic effect is "I can understand the words of songs which are not clear when straight" (4%, 10% , 20%, 29%, 37%), which also occurs at the lower levels of intoxication (19%, 45%, 25%, 5%, 1%). This is an experience clearly relevant to understanding rock music, which seems incomprehensible to many ordinary people. A rare effect on auditory acuity is "I have difficulty hearing things clearly; sounds are blurry and indistinct" (61%, 23%, 13%, 1%, 0%), a very high level effect (6%, 5%, 6%, 9%, 10%, but note that 64 percent could not rate this). The interrelationships between these three acuity effects are plotted in Figure 7-1. Hearing more subtle changes in sounds occurs more frequently than understanding the words of songs better (p <.001); and the latter effect, in turn, occurs more frequently than blurring of sounds (p <.001). Subtle changes in sounds and understanding songs have the same distribution of levels of intoxication, but the level for sound blurring is much higher than either of these phenomena (p <.001 in both cases).

One of the acuity phenomena is affected by background variables. Moderate Total use of marijuana is more frequently associated with understanding the words of songs better than Heavy Total use (p <.05), even though this is a very frequent phenomenon with Heavy Total users (mode at Very Often/Usually), with a suggestion (p <.10) that Light Total users also understand the words of songs better more frequently than Heavy Total users but do not differ from Moderate Total users. Users of Psychedelics also experience this more frequently than Non-users (p <.01).

Just part of the goodness from http://www.psychedelic-library.org/tart7.htm

I suppose if someone is high and focuses on music, that would increase appreciation of long material that isn't utter cr*p - but it will remain but a suspicion until I come across more direct commentary.

(I dislike stoners, so I'd like to test my theory by locking one of them in a room for an hour with The E.N.D. as the only audio

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**Scarlett O'Hara** · 09-02-2012, 10:24 PM

I can't believe this thread is still going...

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sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	Alright, thanks, that supports my assertion. Of course I'd known about Deadheads being drug users. Pink Floyd has a drug-associated reputation, too, and originally was a psychedelic rock band. But it evolved to make some quality long songs. Yes, "bob." with a period. Anyway, I meant the first time I brought up drugs and song length - either it was ignored then or I have to find that post and check. Being "stoned" includes being lethargic, right? So doesn't that increase de facto patience?