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Old 08-18-2012, 12:26 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Really the only thing I can say is if
it's executed well, that's what matters, regardless of time.

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Old 08-18-2012, 01:00 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Really the only thing I can say is if
it's executed well, that's what matters, regardless of time.

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Old 08-18-2012, 02:26 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:48 PM   #104 (permalink)
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It depends on how good it is, really. Sometimes I am bored with six-minute songs, and sometimes I go listen to Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven.
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:23 PM   #105 (permalink)
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I can't speak for everyone, but I'd say the majority of really long songs I listen to are loud, heavy music, not "relaxing" music.
I'd say the majority of long songs I listen to are both, because being long they can change and evolve as the song progresses. Take my favourite, Genesis's "Supper's ready". Yes it's over twenty minutes long, but it opens on a gentle acoustic guitar and flute melody, over time morphing into everything from heavy rock to sort of African tribal to near-20s style and back again. It couldn't really be considered easy listening, but neither could it be considered loud, heavy music. Ditto with "Grendel" by Marillion, "The last human gateway" by IQ, "Fool's overture" by Supertramp and hundreds, nay thousands more.

This is what I think legitimises (if they need to be) longer songs; that the artiste can more fully explore different rhythms, tempos, time signatures, even genres within the timeframe of the one song.
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:25 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Better people than you and I have tried, but it's almost ironic how the OP hates long songs, but the thread just keeps going and going like a ... long song...
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Better people than you and I have tried, but it's almost ironic how the OP hates long songs, but the thread just keeps going and going like a ... long song...
Also have to remember that the OP has refused to comment on anything other than Vegangelica because she's the only person who has agreed with him. I'm having a pretty good debate with her in this thread which is why I keep coming back, but as far as the OP is concerned, there's really nothing anybody can say to get a rise out of him unless we decide to agree with him. Which we won't.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:12 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Dislike? Depends on if I like the damn thing. Now Pink Floyd? No.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:39 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Not really. Prog is usually 15 to 20 minutes long, and I wouldn't call this:



easy listening.

However, this could be considered easy listening.

I've heard both of those songs before and would rather not hear them again. I seriously wonder if the popularity of prog in the 70's is largely due to the popularity of getting stoned then. Those songs do not convey emotion-laden realistic stories, so I cannot tolerate their length.

FYI, I probably was thinking of John Cale or John Prine when I read the John Cage quote.
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I think the only prog rock song I ever liked was ELP's Karn Evil 9. My old band used to take the stage to it.
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