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Norg 04-01-2013 10:18 PM

why because he Dead .... : )

if that's the case Nirvina and Lennon are overated has well infact any artist whos life gets cut short is overated .....................

ZiggyStardust 04-02-2013 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Electrophonic Tonic (Post 1302869)
What is messy about it? The squeaking and screams? Know those are mimicking sounds of airplanes, bombers and machine guns, right? Jimi's version is a protest song in front of Woodstock, not a faithful rendition to open the Super Bowl. And, I'm not sure how difficult it is on guitar, but the Star Spangled Banner is an incredibly demanding and complex song to sing properly. So the fact he could weave the original song with all of his embelishments in a fluid way is extraordinary to me.

And, who do you think is a really good guitarist compared to Jimi Hendrix?

His version of Star Spangled Banner lost the melody completely - there's no point doing a song if you can't actually hear the melody that's being played. The bombs and machine guns sound like machine guns, I'll give you that, but if he wanted to play a protest song he didn't need to add it into the country's anthem.
Normally he uses feedback in a good way, but in this case it just sounds messy and out of place. The buzz coats all the notes so half of them just sound like buzzes.

And as for the greatest guitarist? Jimmy Page. Just listen to his ''Stairway To Heaven'' performance from 1973's The Song Remains The Same concert film.

Rjinn 04-02-2013 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1302523)
*well I'm going to get a lot of flak for this but oh well*

2 Reasons Why Jimi Hendrix is overrated

1. His use of the whammy bar/Playing in general

watch a video of his performance of Hey Joe at Woodstock and compare it to his studio version. In my opinion I think he absolutely destroys the whammy bar in the song in a bad way. Nearly every lick starts and finishes with it, and because of the amount of distortion it sounds like he knows that he will make a mistake so he uses the whammy bar and distortion to hide it.
Also, his playing is incredibly sloppy. I know, things will sound different live, but Jesus does that guitar sound bad.



2. Creativity

Okay, so I’m going to admit that I like Foxy Lady and All along The Watchtower - they are pretty damn catchy. I’m not going to deny the fact the Jimi had some creative genius in him – it’s just the fact that he had to (mostly) rely on LSD and various other drugs to compose songs. I compare that to The Beatles’ Let It Be and Abbey Road albums – they had simply run out of ideas and turned to drugs to help find a new tune.
For all that Jimi is praised in his techniques; he doesn’t really expand outside his genre. A true musician explores all genres and styles. Jimi only delves into rock, blues and a bit of psychedelic, and that’s it.

Jimi was wild and ferocious, and that's exactly what made him such an influential guitar icon. Live, he just let loose an improvised on the spot. Clean and well planned wasn't his appeal, from how I see it at least.

TockTockTock 04-02-2013 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303042)
His version of Star Spangled Banner lost the melody completely - there's no point doing a song if you can't actually hear the melody that's being played. The bombs and machine guns sound like machine guns, I'll give you that, but if he wanted to play a protest song he didn't need to add it into the country's anthem.
Normally he uses feedback in a good way, but in this case it just sounds messy and out of place. The buzz coats all the notes so half of them just sound like buzzes.

Why not? The protest was aimed at the country the anthem is about. Seems rather fitting to me...

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-02-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303042)

And as for the greatest guitarist? Jimmy Page. Just listen to his ''Stairway To Heaven'' performance from 1973's The Song Remains The Same concert film.

The same Jimmy Page that recycled old blues riffs and claimed them as his own?

The same Jimmy Page that had an amazing musical arranger in his band in John Paul Jones and never utilised him whatsoever?

Keep him

ZiggyStardust 04-02-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1303072)
The same Jimmy Page that recycled old blues riffs and claimed them as his own?

The same Jimmy Page that had an amazing musical arranger in his band in John Paul Jones and never utilised him whatsoever?

Keep him

I think you'll find that everyone has recycled things and labeled them as their own.

Wait, so JPJ needed Page to show his talents? He did it himself. JPJ and Bonham themselves said they were a rhythm section, not a lead like Page.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-02-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303073)

Wait, so JPJ needed Page to show his talents? He did it himself. JPJ and Bonham themselves said they were a rhythm section, not a lead like Page.

Go back and read what I said I don't think you get it.

Plankton 04-02-2013 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1303042)
His version of Star Spangled Banner lost the melody completely - there's no point doing a song if you can't actually hear the melody that's being played. The bombs and machine guns sound like machine guns, I'll give you that, but if he wanted to play a protest song he didn't need to add it into the country's anthem.
Normally he uses feedback in a good way, but in this case it just sounds messy and out of place. The buzz coats all the notes so half of them just sound like buzzes.

I'm not saying I play like him but I was inspired by his version:


Planktons Odyssey Star Spangled Banner 2012 Foster Fest - YouTube

So... :finger:

Janszoon 04-02-2013 08:44 AM

Hendrix probably is a little overrated, like a lot of other rock gods. But that doesn't mean he wasn't amazing. The fact that he could be so popular and so influential and yet continue to be largely inimitable really says something about just how great he was IMO.

Paul Smeenus 04-02-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1302749)
A further 3 reasons -

1. His rendition of The Star Spangled Banner is, in all fairness, a mess. It truly is. Now, if you or I made that then people would laugh at you and call you a bit funny, but because it's Hendrix then automatically people assume that it's brilliant.
It's like Smoke on The Water. Okay, so forget that fact that it's the first thing you can play on the guitar and it's by Deep Purple and mentions Frank Zappa, and listen to it again. It's a terrible song.


No it isn't.


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