The financial decline of the music industry and two possible consequences

Plankton · 04-01-2013, 11:57 AM

If this is in poor taste (if 'Nilla dont want her mug on here) I'll take it down.

edwardc77 · 04-01-2013, 12:12 PM

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i agree with djchameleon. as far as i can tell, there are now actually fewer walls between a band and getting the recognition they want/deserve.

a major factor in this is that the equipment being used to record albums back in the day was cumbersome to the highest order, and thus very expensive to hire out. now anyone with a decent laptop, some ripped software and some rented high quality microphones can make a professional-sounding album, given they find someone to master it for cheap or for free. great albums aren't the result of time spent in the studio necessarily (if at all). they are the result of great minds and good musicians. obviously this is just my opinion. i just don't hear money when i hear a good album. i hear music. and it's just way easier to record music now than it's ever been.

True,it has never been easier and cheaper to make electronica.
However when dealing with electric or acoustic musical instruments there is probably still a difference between recording in your garage and recording in Abbey Road's Studio two !

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-01-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton

If this is in poor taste (if 'Nilla dont want her mug on here) I'll take it down.

OMG I love it! Totally making it my avatar.

Euronomus · 04-01-2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by edwardc77

First Consequence:
The end of big budget productions.
It will be very difficult to hear in the future complex albums that require months of studio sessions and lots of money to fund. Albums like Sgt pepper’s lonely hearts Club band, The Dark side of the moon, Loveless and The Fragile to name but a few.
If I remember correctly the total cost in 1967 for Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club band was around 50 thousand pounds (the equivalent of 750 thousand dollars today) for 5 months of studio time.
This would not be possible today, not for a rock band at least.
Nobody would risk so much money for one album.
….and it’s a pity, because I believe we will probably miss out on a lot of potentially good records.
The other consequence will be that artists will not be given a second chance.
The Fugees first album (Blunted on reality) and The Beastie Boys second record (Paul’s Boutique) were both commercial failures when they came out. Nevertheless they still received another chance. They both received 100 thousand dollars and plenty of time to work on another project…. and the result was great albums!
It probably would have never happened today, we would simply not have had albums like The Score or Check your head.
So guys, what do you think, are my preoccupations real? And do they really matter?

Sgt peppers could be made today in someones basement with a computer, a couple of good mics, and some basic recording knowledge, probably in half the time or less. As far as musicians not getting a second chance, the internet has changed the whole dynamic and made that whole topic essentially moot. A major label is a horrible place for a fledgling band now, the best thing they can do is put their own stuff out and build a fanbase, first on their own or with the help of a small label and after they have a sizable one sign to a larger indie. At this point in the game major labels are only a good place for established acts that need the access to large amounts of promotion and distribution. Anyone who doesn't absolutely need those things are fools for signing to a major, and will far more than likely come away from the situation worse off than they came into it.

Euronomus · 04-01-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by edwardc77

True,it has never been easier and cheaper to make electronica.
However when dealing with electric or acoustic musical instruments there is probably still a difference between recording in your garage and recording in Abbey Road's Studio two !

Some but not much, yes access to better and varied equipment will make a recording sound more polished, but most of what it takes to make a good recording is knowledge. mic position, controlling room ambiance, proper mixing technique, and so on. You could easily make a record with equal or maybe even better production quality than Sgt Peppers in your basement, but you would probably struggle to match some of the more recent classics, Mellon Collie, Lateralus, Kid A, but a patient knowledgeable person could probably match those given enough time and perseverance .

Plankton · 04-02-2013, 07:38 AM

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OMG I love it! Totally making it my avatar.

Dang! I shoulda posted up the one with MY head in place of Mulders.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-02-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by edwardc77

First Consequence:
The end of big budget productions.
It will be very difficult to hear in the future complex albums that require months of studio sessions and lots of money to fund. Albums like Sgt pepper’s lonely hearts Club band, The Dark side of the moon, Loveless and The Fragile to name but a few.

You're assuming that all money for recording albums comes from record companies. They don't.
Lots of bands have financial backers who are willing to throw money at bands as a tax write off if they don't make it back.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-02-2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton

Dang! I shoulda posted up the one with MY head in place of Mulders.

I'd like to see the finished product hehe.

Plankton · 04-03-2013, 07:53 AM

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I'd like to see the finished product hehe.

As you wish.

Plank and Vanilla sittin in a tree, kay eye ess ess eye en gee...

This'll probably come back to bite me in the ass at some point.

The Batlord · 04-03-2013, 09:15 AM

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As you wish.

Plank and Vanilla sittin in a tree, eff you see kay eye en gee...

This'll probably come back to bite me in the ass at some point.

Fixed.

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