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Franco Pepe Kalle 05-28-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1325769)
Why are people proud of their displays of ignorance? :laughing:

That is a good question. But then again, some people like to make dumb comparisons. Most of them are so opinionated base. Most people know that.

Paedantic Basterd 05-28-2013 09:38 PM

I can be pretty opinionated base.

Franco Pepe Kalle 05-28-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1325772)
I can be pretty opinionated base.

So I am. I think most people. :):)

Scarlett O'Hara 05-28-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1325769)
Why are people proud of their displays of ignorance? :laughing:

Because they think they are more intelligent than others.

Janszoon 05-28-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1325772)
I can be pretty opinionated base.

All your opinionated base are belong to us.

Franco Pepe Kalle 05-28-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1325786)
All your opinionated base are belong to us.

everyone regardless of country is pretty biased.

Neapolitan 05-28-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1325582)
Good to see ya back FPK. GO USA? WTF is this thread about again, the difference between poutine and cheese fries? :jailed:

It's about Ketchup vs Mayo on French fries. However the OP is from the South they don't consider them "French fries" - they're "Freedom fries" down yonder.

hip hop bunny hop 05-29-2013 06:11 PM

lawl, burning down gave me an infraction for my last post in this thread. Someone has thin skin, :p

Paedantic Basterd 05-29-2013 06:22 PM

She's not the only person living in Canada who posts here.

Neapolitan 05-29-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1326051)
lawl, burning down gave me an infraction for my last post in this thread. Someone has thin skin, :p

I know FPK is egging you on to have a beef with her, but you can't be so easily influenced.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-29-2013 08:51 PM

Can we get this back on topic now please?

Necromancer 05-29-2013 09:10 PM

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John Kay is one of my all-time front men. Steppenwolf is a "kinda" Canadian-American rock group that has made a prominent influence on rock music.
I personally think these guys are often overlooked and unappreciated.

Franco Pepe Kalle 05-29-2013 09:57 PM

I know one R&B Canadian artist that was a failure in the American music scene. She made some good music. She is the one who basically Rihanna copied. Such a shame. I forgot her name but it should come back.

The Batlord 05-30-2013 09:54 AM

Are we seriously asking whether America is better than their hat? Man, **** Canada.

Franco Pepe Kalle 05-30-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1326278)
Are we seriously asking whether America is better than their hat? Man, **** Canada.

kiekiekiekie. Why the hell say that. Damn, The Batlord, damn. :jailed::jailed:

The Batlord 05-30-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1326280)
kiekiekiekie. Why the hell say that. Damn, The Batlord, damn. :jailed::jailed:

Because of this guy.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hO5JqJsLr1...dian_large.jpg

Franco Pepe Kalle 05-30-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1326283)

:beer::beer: The Batlord, you are such a entertainer.

hip hop bunny hop 05-30-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1326057)
She's not the only person living in Canada who posts here.

If Canada wants to sit at the big boy table, Canadians are going to have to act like adults.

Burning Down 05-30-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1326486)
If Canada wants to sit at the big boy table, Canadians are going to have to act like adults.

That's nice. Now can we get this thread back on topic please?

Neapolitan 05-30-2013 09:22 PM

Whenever I read hhbh posts, I think of an angry drunk guy who slurs his speech saying it.
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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1326486)
If Canada wants to sit at the big boy table, Canadians are going to have to act like adults.

... back to topic everyone talks Bob Dylan. I think his contemporary Gordon Lightfoot is often over looked for his contributions. Even Dylan was a fan of his.

Sequoioideae 05-30-2013 10:41 PM

http://aux-www.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-c...-Kroeger1.jpeg

This is why Canada is an inhabitable wasteland, this man right here is responsible for everything wrong in the world.

Sorry Canada, but it's just how things are.

hip hop bunny hop 05-31-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1326492)
That's nice. Now can we get this thread back on topic please?

Sure.

The major problem with the idea of "Canadian Music" versus that of the USA, is that Canada has not been home to any unique musical movements. Canadian music is music of imitation, hence why when one spins a Canadian record you don't notice a particular Canadian sound. We've seen that in this thread, where people just notice that, in a very piecemeal fashion, some of their favorite artists from genres dominated by other countries just so happened to be Canadian. Hence why, say, Neil Young is identified with Americana even though he isn't.

crazed 05-31-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1326513)


... back to topic everyone talks Bob Dylan. I think his contemporary Gordon Lightfoot is often over looked for his contributions. Even Dylan was a fan of his.

Love me a lot of early Gordon Lightfoot, everything up to Summertime Dream.

yuval963 06-01-2013 06:08 AM

usa..

Surell 06-01-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1323517)
"Got to love the Drake!"

Yes,it is politically incorrect to think an American toy company (reference below) is connected somehow with American culture or to say an Americanized Canadian (expect for the folksy mystique part) is an avid fan of said company and to be on the safe side don't mention Lioneltech and Trainmaster Command, that never happened. :bonkhead:

I SAID TRAINS bro.

Franco Pepe Kalle 06-01-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1326635)
Sure.

The major problem with the idea of "Canadian Music" versus that of the USA, is that Canada has not been home to any unique musical movements. Canadian music is music of imitation, hence why when one spins a Canadian record you don't notice a particular Canadian sound. We've seen that in this thread, where people just notice that, in a very piecemeal fashion, some of their favorite artists from genres dominated by other countries just so happened to be Canadian. Hence why, say, Neil Young is identified with Americana even though he isn't.

You are on to something here. Not only that but many Canadian artists tend to want to steal many of American sounds and pretend that it is theirs although American artists do also copy Canadian music sound too but not as much as Canadian artists which could be why many Canadian artists are not taken seriously.

Surell 06-01-2013 01:36 PM

Even if Canadian artists never entirely created their own scene or movement (which it could be argued no artist truly does), I think being the best or an exemplar in one's field itself is a contribution to music - oftentimes, these are the people that lead sounds or paradigms or whatever you want to call them. Many Canadian artists are noted for how idiosyncratic their music is as well, i.e. Neil or Joni Mitchell. Neil is also credited with forecasting Grunge though, which is quite a feat despite how you feel about the genre or its fallout.

Franco Pepe Kalle 06-01-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1327058)
Even if Canadian artists never entirely created their own scene or movement (which it could be argued no artist truly does), I think being the best or an exemplar in one's field itself is a contribution to music - oftentimes, these are the people that lead sounds or paradigms or whatever you want to call them. Many Canadian artists are noted for how idiosyncratic their music is as well, i.e. Neil or Joni Mitchell. Neil is also credited with forecasting Grunge though, which is quite a feat despite how you feel about the genre or its fallout.

Surrell, you do make good points. Yes of course they are many Canadian artists that have been able to make some iconic impacts. I never dispute that at all. They are Canadian artists that I enjoy myself personally. I have never been anti-Canadian music at all. As I said, some American artists steal some Canadian musician's music and they pretend as if its their own. Just at look at Rihanna as example.

djchameleon 06-01-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1327063)
Just at look at Rihanna as example.

Who did Rihanna steal her style from?

Franco Pepe Kalle 06-01-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1327068)
Who did Rihanna steal her style from?

Some Canadian artist chick. She claims that her sound that she wanted was given to Rihanna. I forgot her name. I am not sure but I will look at some time.

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-01-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1327075)
Some Canadian artist chick. She claims that her sound that she wanted was given to Rihanna. I forgot her name. I am not sure but I will look at some time.

Celine Dion

Franco Pepe Kalle 06-01-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1327076)
Celine Dion

kiekiekie. it is not Celine Dion. it was a black rock Canadian artist. I forgot her name but it will come back. As I said, I will do research later on.

Surell 06-01-2013 01:53 PM

or joni mitchell

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-01-2013 01:53 PM

Geddy Lee

Franco Pepe Kalle 06-01-2013 01:56 PM

I am not sure right now. Give me time Urban and Surrell. kiekiekiekiekiekie.

Burning Down 06-01-2013 01:57 PM

Why make a statement like that and then not back it up right away?

Franco Pepe Kalle 06-01-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1327083)
Why make a statement like that and then not back it up right away?

My friend Burning Down, I said some black female Canadian artist made some claim about two or three years ago, that most of Rihanna's music from her successful album Good Girl Gone Bad came from her and those music were supposed to be hers but instead were given to Rihanna. That is all I remember. As I said, I don't remember her name but I will research later. GIVE ME TIME. please.

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-01-2013 02:00 PM

Whoever this chick is I hope she's not thinking of suing because to me Rihanna just sounds like every single female black R&B singer of the past 25 years, so this Canadian chick couldn't have been too original.

if anything Mary J Blige should just sue the whole f*cking lot of them.

djchameleon 06-01-2013 02:03 PM

I hope you are thinking of FeFe Dobson Franco.

Franco Pepe Kalle 06-01-2013 02:12 PM

The artist I am speaking of is Fefe Dobson. DJ, you were right.
http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600...2010_10_13.jpg

In fact some years ago (maybe four years ago or three), she claims that the song "Shut up and Drive" was supposed to be hers but accuses Rihanna of copying her sound and voice and pretend that it was her song. That comes from Fefe Dobson. Hearing the voice of Dobson, she could have a point. Regardless, I believe Fefe. Before Rihanna was all R&B like. Suddenly she changes so much. She must have copied someone. It could be Fefe Dobson.


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