Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   General Music (https://www.musicbanter.com/general-music/)
-   -   Musical Survey (https://www.musicbanter.com/general-music/70206-musical-survey.html)

Lord Larehip 06-15-2013 01:16 PM

Musical Survey
 
[I made up the following test a couple of years ago just to see how much background people have in music today. It's not to make anyone feel stupid and I'm not looking for detailed info just a passing familiarity will do. Don't search the web for any answers, answer them as best you can off the top of your head. Likewise, don't look at other people's answers. If you don't know, just say you don't know. I'm looking for honesty so I can draw a proper conclusion. Thanks.]

Gender:

Age:

Do you play an instrument proficiently?

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no)

2. Can you name a Miles Davis number or album?

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is?

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is?

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is?

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song?

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is?

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is?

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex?

10. Name a T. Rex song:

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the ____________.

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr?

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is:

14. The Supremes recorded for what label?

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is?

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song:

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the ________ period.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music:

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song:

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above

21. Name a Cole Porter song:

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the ________.

23. What is “the Carter lick”?

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ.

25. What was Mozart’s full name?

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above.

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music?

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece:

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930.

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell.

Burning Down 06-15-2013 02:14 PM

I'll take a crack at this. Answers in bold for easy reading.

Gender: Female

Age: 23

Do you play an instrument proficiently? I’ve been playing and studying the flute seriously since age 12. I’m currently 1 credit away from obtaining a Bachelor of Music degree. I also play guitar proficiently.

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no) Yes, I love Miles!

2. Can you name a Miles Davis number or album? Bitches Brew

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is? Yes. Bluegrass guitarist.

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is? The King of Western Swing.

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is? Yes, love him too.

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song? Caravan

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is? R&B singer. I think he even toured with Big Mama Thornton.

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is? Yes

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex? Marc Bolan

10. Name a T. Rex song: Bang a Gong.

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the TENOR SAXOPHONE.

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr? Pete Best

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is: Richard Starkey

14. The Supremes recorded for what label? Motown.

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is? Yes.

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song: Flip Flop and Fly.

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the BAROQUE period.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music: Gregorian Chant.

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song: The Happening.

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above

D. Also Sprach Zarathustra

21. Name a Cole Porter song: Begin the Beguine

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the CELLO

23. What is “the Carter lick”? Finger style guitar where melody is played on the bass strings and the rhythm is maintained on the higher strings.

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ.

Going to say A, because he introduced many principles of operatic music theory. Not general music theory which is what your answer implies here.

25. What was Mozart’s full name? Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above.

D. Haydn. (Franz Joseph Haydn.)

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music? Romantic

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece: Heliotrope Bouquet

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930.

B. 1900-1910. His peak period.

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell.

A. Charley Patton

CrazyVegn 06-15-2013 02:19 PM

Wow, BD gets a cookie of her choice. ;o)

Lord Larehip 06-15-2013 02:43 PM

When I created it, I did not think it would be a hard quiz. Then I started getting answers back and--jeesh! One guy couldn't answer anything but that Yoyo Ma played cello and Mozart's full name. On the Doc Watson question, he wrote: "What's Sherlock Holmes got to do with music?"

Burning Down 06-15-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyVegn (Post 1332781)
Wow, BD gets a cookie of her choice. ;o)

Mmmmm, maybe some Oreos :)

So how did I do?

Trollheart 06-15-2013 03:02 PM

Here's my admittedly poor effort....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1332766)
[I made up the following test a couple of years ago just to see how much background people have in music today. It's not to make anyone feel stupid and I'm not looking for detailed info just a passing familiarity will do. Don't search the web for any answers, answer them as best you can off the top of your head. Likewise, don't look at other people's answers. If you don't know, just say you don't know. I'm looking for honesty so I can draw a proper conclusion. Thanks.]

Gender: Male

Age: 50 next month

Do you play an instrument proficiently? No, very very badly (keyboards)

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no) Yes

2. Can you name a Miles Davis number or album? Can't think of it but I do know one ... damn it I just can't think of the title!

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is? No. Is he Sherlock Holmes' assistant? ;)

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is? No

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is? Yes

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song? No

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is? No

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is? Yes

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex? Marc Bolan

10. Name a T. Rex song: Ride a white swan

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the ___saxamaphone_________.

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr? Dunno, can't stand the Beatles

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is: Richard Starkey

14. The Supremes recorded for what label? Motown (Tamla Motown)

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is? Yes

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song: Phantom 309 (I only know this because Waits covers it)

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the __baroque?______ period.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music: Duh?

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song: When will I see you again?

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above A and D I think. Definitely D.

21. Name a Cole Porter song: Night and day

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the _cello______.

23. What is “the Carter lick”? Dunno

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ. C, although is that true?

25. What was Mozart’s full name? Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above. D

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music? Don't know

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece: Can't

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930. D

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell. C?


Electrophonic Tonic 06-15-2013 03:08 PM

If there is a question mark, it's because I'm taking a random guess.

Gender: Male

Age: 23

Do you play an instrument proficiently? No

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no) Yes

2. Can you name a Miles Davis number or album? Flamenco Sketches

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is? No

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is? No

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is? Yes

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song? No

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is? Yes

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is? Yes

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex? Marc Bolan

10. Name a T. Rex song: 20th Century Boy

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the ____________. Saxophone

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr? Pete Best

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is: Richard Starsky

14. The Supremes recorded for what label? Motown

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is? Yes

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song: No

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the ________ period. Baroque?

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music: Christian Hymns?

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song: ?

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above A

21. Name a Cole Porter song:

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the ________. Cello

23. What is “the Carter lick”? It's something to do with the style of guitar playing in the Carter Family Singers

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ. D?

25. What was Mozart’s full name? Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above. B?

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music? Romantic

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece: The Entertainer

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930. B

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell. B

Paedantic Basterd 06-15-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1332788)
When I created it, I did not think it would be a hard quiz. Then I started getting answers back and--jeesh! One guy couldn't answer anything but that Yoyo Ma played cello and Mozart's full name. On the Doc Watson question, he wrote: "What's Sherlock Holmes got to do with music?"

To be fair, there's a lot of music in the world, and many people are probably comparably well-versed in genres that you may not even know exist.

Burning Down 06-15-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1332799)
To be fair, there's a lot of music in the world, and many people are probably comparably well-versed in genres that you may not even know exist.

I agree. I'm pretty well versed in classical, rock, and jazz and most of the sub-genres of each (classical and jazz have sub-sub-sub-sub genres even, heheh). But beyond that, I'm not all that knowledgeable. MB is a great place for me because I'm constantly learning about genres and artists I have never heard before.

Necromancer 06-15-2013 03:35 PM

Gender: Male

Age: 52

Do you play an instrument proficiently? Yes

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no) Don't Know

2. Can you name a Miles Davis number or album? No

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is? No

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is? No

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is? No

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song? No

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is? No

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is? Yes

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex? Marc Bolan

10. Name a T. Rex song: 20th Century Boy

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the: Don't Know

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr? Don't Know

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is: Don't Know

14. The Supremes recorded for what label?Don't Know

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is? Don't Know

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song: Don't Know

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the Don't Know period.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music: Don't Know

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song: Don't Know

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above Don't Know

21. Name a Cole Porter song: Don't Know

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the: Don't Know

23. What is “the Carter lick”? Don't Know

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ. Don't Know

25. What was Mozart’s full name? Don't Know

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above. Don't Know

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music? Don't Know

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece: Don't Know

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930. Don't Know

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell. Don't Know

This is quite embarrassing :shycouch: Looks like I should just stick to playing music verses being a music historian...Geez.

Especially at my age.

Trollheart 06-15-2013 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1332799)
To be fair, there's a lot of music in the world, and many people are probably comparably well-versed in genres that you may not even know exist.

Yeah I agree. This questionnaire is very heavily based on "older" music, from jaz to blues and right back to classical. Had he asked who plays bass in Slayer or name both Iron Maiden guitarists, or maybe what was The Pet Shop Boys' most successful album, I think a lot more people would know these things. Like Necro says, even he and I, at the fifty-year mark, are stumped by some of these questions, so how are kids going to know?

I think it's too one-sided and certainly does not answer the question "how much do you know about music" unless you qualify that by inserting either the word "older" or "certain types of". It needs to be more comprehensive. Look at the list: how many questions refer to music/artistes less than 40 years old in terms of how long they've been around. I mean: Scott Joplin? Give me a break! Seriously. More "modern" questions will give you a far fairer and more balanced result.

Can I have my tuppence worth back now please?

Oh, and my Sherlock Holmes comment was of course a joke...

Necromancer 06-15-2013 03:52 PM

I actually think there is a reason behind his questionnaire, that we don't know the exact reason for yet.

katsy 06-15-2013 04:17 PM

Most of this material looks like music appreciation 101. While I aced that class and somewhat enjoyed it, well... you don't see me completing it.

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-15-2013 04:27 PM

Gender: Yes

Age: Bronze

Do you play an instrument proficiently? Bongos

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no) Yes

2. Can you name a Miles Davis album? His sixth one

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is? Your gynaecologist?

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is? He's a former England cricket captain from the early 80s

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is? Duchess Ellingtons husband?

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song? Yes

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is? He was Shane Douglas tag team partner in the Dynamic Dudes

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is? Probably

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex? John Peel

10. Name a T. Rex song: The one that goes Lalalalalalalala lalalalalala lalala ohhhhhh

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the Dog & Duck in High Wycombe to rapturous applause.

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr? Neal Peart

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is: Neil Peart

14. The Supremes recorded for what label? Dolce & Gabbana

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is? He replaced Ronnie James Dio & Graham Bonnet in Rainbow, He got the nickname 'Big' because he was 3 foot taller than Ronnie, although most people are, so as soon as people realised this he later became known as Joe 'Average Size' Lynn Turner

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song: That one he did with Yngggwvvvwie Malmsteen

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the Jurassic period.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music: Visigoth Soft Rock

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song: Why?

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above

He claimed ownership of all of them but secretly ripped all of them off from old blues singers

21. Name a Cole Porter song: I've Got a Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the Spoons very badly.

23. What is “the Carter lick”? It's what Jimbob & Fruitbat of Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine gave Phillip Schofield when they invaded the stage of the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party in 1991.

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ.

E - He invented the Kazoo

25. What was Mozart’s full name? Jeff

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above.

E - Drunk most of the time & smelled of beetroot

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music?

Grunge

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece: His Arm

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930.

D. 1920-1930. because ink wasn't invented until 1919

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell.

All of them, they take it in turns 3 months each a year

Burning Down 06-15-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1332808)
Yeah I agree. This questionnaire is very heavily based on "older" music, from jaz to blues and right back to classical. Had he asked who plays bass in Slayer or name both Iron Maiden guitarists, or maybe what was The Pet Shop Boys' most successful album, I think a lot more people would know these things. Like Necro says, even he and I, at the fifty-year mark, are stumped by some of these questions, so how are kids going to know?

It's not about age though. You don't have to be "old" to know this stuff just like you don't have to be "young" to know everything about music released in the last 10 years. I'm 23 and would honestly not be able to answer the questions you're suggesting here, without turning to Wikipedia. I know about things that I like, so obviously this sort of thing can be very subjective.

Quote:

I think it's too one-sided and certainly does not answer the question "how much do you know about music" unless you qualify that by inserting either the word "older" or "certain types of". It needs to be more comprehensive. Look at the list: how many questions refer to music/artistes less than 40 years old in terms of how long they've been around. I mean: Scott Joplin? Give me a break! Seriously. More "modern" questions will give you a far fairer and more balanced result.
I think that if more modern questions were included along with these questions, yes there would be a more balanced result. Most MB members are seriously lacking in basic knowledge of classical music (in this case, Western Art Music), and jazz (did I just read that someone doesn't know who Miles Davis is? :eek:), so I think the results would still be fairly unbalanced.

You're welcome to make up a similar questionnaire :D

Lord Larehip 06-15-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1332808)
Yeah I agree. This questionnaire is very heavily based on "older" music, from jaz to blues and right back to classical. Had he asked who plays bass in Slayer or name both Iron Maiden guitarists, or maybe what was The Pet Shop Boys' most successful album, I think a lot more people would know these things.

I have no interest in helping anyone pass. I'm interested in what musical foundation they stand on because that tells me how good of a job we do passing on our musical legacy.

Quote:

Like Necro says, even he and I, at the fifty-year mark, are stumped by some of these questions, so how are kids going to know?
Nothing if we don't teach them about it.

Quote:

Look at the list: how many questions refer to music/artistes less than 40 years old in terms of how long they've been around.
Hopefully none. Our musical legacy is far, far older than that. You can't determine how well a 14 yo girl has been educated musically by questioning her about Justin Bieber. Of course she knows who he is. But does she know what made his music even possible? I seriously doubt it (I doubt Bieber knows either). For example, do you think Bieber might own a HUGE debt to this man?


EDDIE HOLMAN hey there lonely girl original video - YouTube

And if I meet a 14 yo girl and ask her why she listens to Bieber trash and she says, "He's carrying on a great crooning tradition that goes back to Eddie Holman and Smokey Robinson and Clyde McPhatter and Nolan Strong" I'd have to conclude this person is no idiot. But as of right now I can't conclude these girls that listen to him are anything else but idiots.

Quote:

I mean: Scott Joplin? Give me a break! Seriously. More "modern" questions will give you a far fairer and more balanced result.
That would be missing the point entirely. I'm asking about Joplin because people should know about Scott Joplin. Why? Because he is one of the most important composers that ever lived. How? Because he inspired people like Irving Berlin to write "Alexander's Ragtime Band" (actually, Berlin stole part of a Joplin piece and used it in the song for which Joplin was highly displeased) and a million singers have done that song which is what gave you the later artists you think I should be concentrating on. Joplin's rags were loved by a cornetist named King Oliver so much that he had the sheet music bound into one volume so he could practice them. When he took on a student, he taught that kid how to play them because he wanted the kid to learn the difference between jazz and blues. That kid was Louis Armstrong--one of the most important musical figures EVER.

So would it kill a person to go back and listen to Joplin? That's what I did and I became a Joplin devotee. In fact, I became a ragtime devotee. I am far more musically enriched because of that than I could ever have been had I never bothered. Who is a better pianist--a kid who can only play Lady Gaga and Alicia Keyes or one who can play that as well as Beethoven, Joplin and Art Tatum (and if you haven't listened to Art Tatum prepare to be astounded)?

David Lee Roth is all well and good but he himself said in interviews that people really should hear this version:


Louis Prima - Just a Gigolo - JazzAndBluesExperience - YouTube

Wouldn't it be a shame if the only version we remember for posterity is Roth's--oh, wait!--that IS how we remember it.

Or how about this?


TINY BRADSHAW ~ THE TRAIN KEPT A-ROLLIN ~ 1951 - YouTube

Quote:

Can I have my tuppence worth back now please?
Wouldn't you rather do a little deeper musical exploration? Isn't that at least partly why you're here?

Burning Down 06-15-2013 05:14 PM

Oh man, I think I just found my new best friend :love:

Trollheart 06-15-2013 05:38 PM

I am not going to quote all that, but Lord Larehip you certainly don't take constructive criticism very well. I was merely pointing out NOT that people should not know about Scott Joplin or Mozart, of course they should, but that your questionnaire based a person's knowledge of music SOLELY on those eras. I offered you an alternative view but you obviously don't want to listen to anything else. Must come with the title.

Anyhow, thanks for the caustic replies. My comments were meant as a constructive way to help you streamline this but sure in the end I really don't care about your survey, and I think Urban answered it best.

Good luck with the survey and whatever it's for.

By the way, to your last question, no it isn't. I came here to discuss music I like. Everyone here knows I'm rooted in my own preferred genres. I know what I like and seldom step outside those. Not everyone wants to hear everything that was ever written. Some people do, but those who are happy with what they listen to should not be denigrated for "not being adventurous" enough. I have more than enough to listen to at the moment thanks. Perhaps I will listen to Joplin, perhaps not. But not because you tell me to.

And now, I go back to whatever I do and leave you with your new best friend.

I bid you. adieu.
To you, and you, and you.

Zer0 06-15-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1332766)
[I made up the following test a couple of years ago just to see how much background people have in music today. It's not to make anyone feel stupid and I'm not looking for detailed info just a passing familiarity will do. Don't search the web for any answers, answer them as best you can off the top of your head. Likewise, don't look at other people's answers. If you don't know, just say you don't know. I'm looking for honesty so I can draw a proper conclusion. Thanks.]

Gender:

Age:

Do you play an instrument proficiently?

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no)

2. Can you name a Miles Davis number or album?

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is?

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is?

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is?

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song?

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is?

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is?

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex?

10. Name a T. Rex song:

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the ____________.

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr?

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is:

14. The Supremes recorded for what label?

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is?

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song:

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the ________ period.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music:

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song:

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above

21. Name a Cole Porter song:

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the ________.

23. What is “the Carter lick”?

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ.

25. What was Mozart’s full name?

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above.

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music?

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece:

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930.

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell.

The Beatles

Necromancer 06-15-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1332815)

Most MB members are seriously lacking in basic knowledge of classical music (in this case, Western Art Music), and jazz (did I just read that someone doesn't know who Miles Davis is? :eek:), so I think the results would still be fairly unbalanced.

You're welcome to make up a similar questionnaire :D

That is what I always thought the main function of any music forum was, to gain more insight and knowledge from other members.

It would be sad if the lounge forum was the most popular forum, at any music site as far as that goes.

Lord Larehip 06-15-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1332842)
That is what I always thought the main function of any music forum was, to gain more insight and knowledge from other members.

Apparently, I'm ORDERING people to listen to stuff.

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-15-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1332849)
Apparently, I'm ORDERING people to listen to stuff.

I wouldn't say you were ordering people to but comments like this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1332825)

And if I meet a 14 yo girl and ask her why she listens to Bieber trash and she says, "He's carrying on a great crooning tradition that goes back to Eddie Holman and Smokey Robinson and Clyde McPhatter and Nolan Strong" I'd have to conclude this person is no idiot. But as of right now I can't conclude these girls that listen to him are anything else but idiots.

Make me think you have unrealistic expectations of people.

Gavin B. 06-15-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1332808)
Yeah I agree. This questionnaire is very heavily based on "older" music, from jaz to blues and right back to classical. Had he asked who plays bass in Slayer or name both Iron Maiden guitarists, or maybe what was The Pet Shop Boys' most successful album, I think a lot more people would know these things. Like Necro says, even he and I, at the fifty-year mark, are stumped by some of these questions, so how are kids going to know?

I think it's too one-sided and certainly does not answer the question "how much do you know about music" unless you qualify that by inserting either the word "older" or "certain types of". It needs to be more comprehensive. Look at the list: how many questions refer to music/artistes less than 40 years old in terms of how long they've been around. I mean: Scott Joplin? Give me a break! Seriously. More "modern" questions will give you a far fairer and more balanced result.

Can I have my tuppence worth back now please?

Oh, and my Sherlock Holmes comment was of course a joke...

I did okay on the quiz but I would definitely flunk a quiz with questions about contemporary pop artists like Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, and Mumford and Sons.

Most of the artists on your quiz were before my time but any person with a curiosity about music should know about Scott Joplin, Cole Porter, John Coltrane and Duke Ellington.

Some of the roots music questions are challenging even to the musically educated forum members. Few people outside of acoustic guitar players know what the Carter lick is. I know Carter lick is, but I can't explain it to a lay person unless I have a guitar as a prop. It's like trying to explain what hammer-on or a pull-off is without using a guitar to demonstrate the techinques.

Holland Dozier & Holland were Motown's top songwriting team but Norman Whitefield, Barrett Strong, Deke Richards Smokey Robinson and Motown president Barry Gordy were also prolific composers for Motown. I know that Lamont, Dozier and Holland wrote most of the Supreme's big hits but I'd have to do a fact check if you asked me to name a Lamont, Dozier, and Holland song, excluding the Supreme's biggest hits. It's a tough question even for a person with a knowledge of soul music.

I'd be surprised if over 20% of MB forum members percentage know who Blind Willie McTell, Charley Patton and Fred McDowell are. Of course I'd be among the ignorant had one of your questions had been about mariachi music or gangsta rap.

The title "King of the Delta Blues Men" is a dubious one because Robert Johnson, Son House, Willie Brown and Charlie Patton have all been called the "King of the Delta Blues Singers" at one time or another.

Patton was playing a full decade before Son House or Robert Johnson. However Patton's generational peer, Willie Brown was a better singer and guitar player than Patton. But Willie Brown lost his claim to "king" when he only recorded 8 songs and disappeared into obscurity forever, while Patton recorded nearly 100 songs.

Lord Larehip 06-15-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin B. (Post 1332854)
Some of the roots music questions are challenging even to the musically educated forum members. Few people outside of acoustic guitar players know what the Carter lick is. I know Carter lick is, but I can't explain it to a lay person unless I have a guitar as a prop. It's like trying to explain what hammer-on or a pull-off is without using a guitar to demonstrate the techinques.

The Carter lick is a method of guitar strum that became the foundation of country music. That it had something to do with the Carter Family is all I was looking for. Basically, it's plucking the bass string of a chord followed by the rest of the chord in a kind "oom-pah oom-pah" sort of rhythm that roves up and down the fingerboard. Done correctly, it sounds like two guitars. People thought it was two and were surprised that Maybelle was doing it all by herself.

Quote:

Holland Dozier & Holland were Motown's top songwriting team but Norman Whitefield, Barrett Strong, Deke Richards Smokey Robinson and Motown president Barry Gordy were also prolific composers for Motown. I know that Lamont, Dozier and Holland wrote most of the Supreme's big hits but I'd have to do a fact check if you asked me to name a Lamont, Dozier, and Holland song, excluding the Supreme's biggest hits. It's a tough question even for a person with a knowledge of soul music.
"You Can't Hurry Love" was a big hit for Phil Collins. I only asked for one song. "Can't Help Myself" "How Sweet It Is" "Bernadette" "Baby Love" "Keep Me Hanging On" "Reach Out" "Same Old Song" "This Old Heart of Mine" and there's enough contemporary singers still doing these songs that people today should know who HDH is.

Quote:

I'd be surprised if over 20% of MB forum members percentage know who Blind Willie McTell, Charley Patton and Fred McDowell are. Of course I'd be among the ignorant had one of your questions had been about mariachi music or gangsta rap.

The title "King of the Delta Blues Men" is a dubious one because Robert Johnson, Son House, Willie Brown and Charlie Patton have all been called the "King of the Delta Blues Singers" at one time or another.

Patton was playing a full decade before Son House or Robert Johnson. However Patton's generational peer, Willie Brown was a better singer and guitar player than Patton. But Willie Brown lost his claim to "king" when he only recorded 8 songs and disappeared into obscurity forever, while Patton recorded nearly 100 songs.
Of the choices I gave only one could have had the title. Blind Willie McTell was a Piedmont bluesman, Lightnin' Hopkins was a Texas bluesman and Mississippi Fred McDowell never lived on the delta but founded a blues subgenre called North Mississippi. He spent the first half of his life in Memphis. Patton is the only one listed that lived on the delta so he is the only viable choice.

I'll bet your average Brit knows more about blues than your average American.

Lord Larehip 06-15-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1332851)
Make me think you have unrealistic expectations of people.

Why? Do you think a 14 yo Justin Bieber fan knows he is a throwback to Eddie Holman? I don't. And you know why she won't know that? Because nobody told her.

Burning Down 06-15-2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1332872)
Why? Do you think a 14 yo Justin Bieber fan knows he is a throwback to Eddie Holman? I don't. And you know why she won't know that? Because nobody told her.

Knowing who Eddie Holman is isn't a prerequisite for listening to Justin Bieber though.

Lord Larehip 06-15-2013 10:42 PM

Of course it isn't but Bieber is not only not particularly original, Eddie Holman could out-sing him on worst day. And the song is the type that made Bieber who he is--"Hey there lonely girl / don't you know this lonely boy loves you" That kind of stuff made Bieber's career and he's just a Holman retread.

Paul Smeenus 06-16-2013 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1332766)
17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the ________ period.

Apparently the misspelled name period.

His grave

http://s3.amazonaws.com/findagrave/p...ohannsebas.jpg

His signature

http://www.mattheuspassionhulst.nl/w...340&w=960&zc=1


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1332766)
26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above.

Again. Plus Haydn's name was not spelled in the common modern version, historically it was spelled Joseph Haydn

http://www.ville-ge.ch/bge/bmus/imag...9-01-haydn.jpg

...and in fact he sometimes used the Italian form of the name, Giuseppe

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nature.svg.png

Haydn's name - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I mean if you're going to pontificate and demonstrate to all the younger members here as to how vastly superior your musical educaion is, you might as well get your facts straight.

BTW, I challenge you to try your hand at a quiz composed by some of these young members. They are about eight million times smarter than you're giving them credit for, not that it really amounts to a hill of beans what you think of them in the real world.

Oh, one last thing, Urban wins. :D

Necromancer 06-16-2013 12:49 AM

How old are you Paul?

I'm just curious.

Paul Smeenus 06-16-2013 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1332898)
How old are you Paul?

I'm just curious.



55 (Jan. 27 1958)

Frownland 06-16-2013 01:04 AM

Gender: Male

Age: 19

Do you play an instrument proficiently? I play guitar and saxophone.

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no) Yes

2. Can you name a Miles Davis number or album? Bitches Brew

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is? No

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is? Yes

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is? Yes

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song? Tenderly

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is? No

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is? Yes

9. Who was the driving force behind the$ band T. Rex? Don't know.

10. Name a T. Rex song: Cant.

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the ____________. Tenor and soprano saxophone (at least that's all I've seen him play).

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr? Pete Best.

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is: Richard Starkey

14. The Supremes recorded for what label? The Motown.

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is? Yes

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song: I only recognized the name, but I searched the song on Spotify and it was pretty dank. It was "Flip Flop And Fly".
17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the ________ period. Baroque.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music: Can't

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song: Don't know any.

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above D.

21. Name a Cole Porter song: True Love or something like that.

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the ________.
instrument
23. What is “the Carter lick”? a type of guitar phrasing.

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ.
IRL: A. IFL: C.
25. What was Mozart’s full name? Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above. Guessing E.

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music? Romantic

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece: Magnetic Rag

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930. C?

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell. C? I would say Captain Beefheart myself, but I guess that's not official.

Charlemagne 06-16-2013 01:16 AM

I'll give this a shot, I don't really know how well I'll do but this seems interesting.

Gender: 22

Age: Male

Do you play an instrument proficiently? No

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no) Yes

2. Can you name a Miles Davis number or album? Sketches Of Spain

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is? Yes

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is? No

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is? Yes

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song? Take the A Train

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is? No

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is? Yes

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex? I don't know

10. Name a T. Rex song: Get It On (Bang A Gong)

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the Saxophone____________.

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr? I don't know

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is: I don't know

14. The Supremes recorded for what label? Motown records right?

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is? No

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song:

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the _Baroque_______ period.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music: No clue

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song: Can't

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above

21. Name a Cole Porter song: Man I should know this since my parents listen to it all the time but I can't remember one.

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the _Cello_______.

23. What is “the Carter lick”? No clue

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ.

25. What was Mozart’s full name? Wolfgang Amadeus

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above.

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music? Romantic

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece: Maple Leaf Rag right?

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930.

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”:A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowel

Well that was a poor effort. Ah well, I still enjoyed it.

Lord Larehip 06-16-2013 08:19 AM

Congrats to Charlemagne for being the only respondent thus far to get question 24 correct. It's a hard one but I wanted to see how many people actually believe he killed Mozart. There is not a shred of evidence that he did. The accusation is absurd since he was every bit as celebrated and well known in Vienna at that time as Mozart.

Everybody who answers question 27 gets it right which is encouraging but I should point out that Beethoven INSPIRED the romantic period but was NOT a romantic composer himself. I'm not happy with my wording on that one.

djchameleon 06-16-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1332766)
[I made up the following test a couple of years ago just to see how much background people have in music today. I'm looking for honesty so I can draw a proper conclusion. Thanks.]

So basically you created a series of questions to stroke your e-peen and claim musical superiority over others? Gotcha.

Also why would you give this so called "survey" to people on a music forum? People on a music forum aren't really a good indication of what the general listening public is listening to so whatever results you are looking for won't even begin to paint an accurate picture of the background people have in music today.

Trollheart 06-16-2013 05:47 PM

You know what? I will. I'll go away and create my own "survey", and let's compare responses. Yeah, my own survey. With blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the survey. And the blackjack!

(Can you place that reference, Yer Lordship?) ;)

I
Shall
Return.....

... probably as a tree....:shycouch:

To the Music Laboratory!
http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbvie...-scientist.jpg

gunnels 06-16-2013 05:55 PM

Gender: Male

Age: 19

Do you play an instrument proficiently? -- Yes, I've been playing the piano for ten years.

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no) Yes.

2. Can you name a Miles Davis number or album? On the Corner.

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is? I've only heard the name before.

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is? No.

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is? Yes.

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song? Solitude.

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is? No.

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is? No.

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex? I don't know.

10. Name a T. Rex song: I can't.

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the tenor sax.

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr? Don't know.

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is: Don't know.

14. The Supremes recorded for what label? Atlantic?

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is? No.

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song: Don't know.

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the baroque period.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music: Gregorian Chant

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song: I can't.

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above
Blue Danube

21. Name a Cole Porter song: De-lovely

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the cello.

23. What is “the Carter lick”? Don't know.

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ.
I don't much care for Salieri, so I'd guess he taught Schubert, but him murdering Mozart was a fictionalization.

25. What was Mozart’s full name? Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above.
Haydn.

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music?
The Romantic period.
28. Name a Scott Joplin piece:
Maple Leaf Rag
29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930.
I'd surmise the twenties.
30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell.
No clue.

Burning Down 06-16-2013 06:36 PM

Joplin died of syphilis in 1917, so I'm sure he didn't compose after that haha.

Trollheart 06-16-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1333097)
Joplin died of syphilis in 1917, so I'm sure he didn't compose after that haha.

No, just de-composed!
Sorry sorry sorry! Couldn't resist! :shycouch:

CrazyVegn 06-16-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1333102)
No, just de-composed!
Sorry sorry sorry! Couldn't resist! :shycouch:

Oh gawd you're terrible...

Ok how does Lord Larship lose when there was nothing to win? o.O
Stop pickin' on him - he's kwell.

Lord Larehip 06-16-2013 07:44 PM

Judging from the responses thus far, it would appear that Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys are in danger of being forgotten. I started listening to Mr. Wills maybe a dozen or so years ago after I bought a CD of Emmett Miller. Mr. Miller was a blackface minstrel of the 20s who did a series of recordings that was one of the prime documents of country music even though Miller's stuff was jazz. The reason is that the country cats dug him and incorporated his vocal techniques. He did the earliest recorded version of "I Ain't Got Nobody" which Louis Prima reworked into "Just a Gigolo." Miller also did "Lovesick Blues" which Hank Williams Sr. loved so much, he made it his signature song and billed himself as the Lovesick Blues Boy. And Tommy Duncan was a country singer who auditioned for Bob Wills and both discovered their mutual love for Emmett Miller and worked with each other for many years. The band was home-based in Tulsa, OK. In fact, over 600 musicians were Texas Playboys at some point or other. Some of them were unbelievable musicians, just incredible. They went on to join other bands having learned how to perform from Wills and his influence crept into country music and jazz from every nook and cranny. he is one of the founders of Western swing along with Milton Brown.

Wills grew up in a white sharecropping family and picked cotton in the fields with the black children. After the workday was over, he'd run home and grab his fiddle (he came from a long line of fiddlers) and join in with the black dance numbers which gave him a great love of blues, rags and jazz. He once rode 50 miles on horseback just to see Bessie Smith perform. Wills was the first performer to bring drums to Opryland. This was in the late 40s. Up til then, drums were seen as an abomination among country purists. Real country don't have no drums. But Wills' sound required a drummer. He was told no drums. He told them that he wouldn't perform and they'd have give everyone back their money. They relented but said to keep the drummer out of sight. As soon as they left, Wills ordered his band to move the drums to the very front of the stage. When the curtain went up, the drummer was in full view up front and the management was furious and blacklisted him from Opry land for a couple of years but Red Foley invited him back and Wills again brought a drummer with him. Drums would not be used at Opryland again until the seventies! Remember the name--Bob Wills--the Father of Western Swing!

This first one is a very early Wills piece from 1935 and one of my favorites:

Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys _ Osage Stomp - YouTube

This next one was so loved by Chuck Berry (who grew up like Ray Charles listening to country music) that he borrowed it to make "Maybelline":

Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys - Ida Red Likes The Boogie - YouTube


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:39 AM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.