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Old 07-24-2013, 09:17 AM   #111 (permalink)
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I really should not have started this thread, because it turned into something way more political than I intended it to turn. It's my fault, for assuming members here could try to keep the topic on music but if any of the mods are feeling lock-happy, feel free to lock this thread I started.
I understand your intentions but the two subjects are closely related to one another. A musician is boycotting a political issue. Of course the political issue that is being mentioned would be brought up in a thread talking about it.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:22 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:23 AM   #113 (permalink)
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I understand your intentions but the two subjects are closely related to one another. A musician is boycotting a political issue. Of course the political issue that is being mentioned would be brought up in a thread talking about it.
I hear the sale of Florida Oranges has plummeted. Way to go Stevie.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:26 AM   #114 (permalink)
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I understand your intentions but the two subjects are closely related to one another. A musician is boycotting a political issue. Of course the political issue that is being mentioned would be brought up in a thread talking about it.
Which is why I'd prefer to end it altogether.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:30 AM   #115 (permalink)
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One, I was directly the term white at 216 because of his nonchalant attitude towards this case not being about race when there is clearly a racial climate/tension related to it.

Two, the relation is that if you are black you feel like wtf? what happened to Trayvon Martin could happen to me as well if I live in Florida or it could happen to someone that I know and love. Even Obama came out and said that he felt it could have happened to him. He could have been Trayvon years ago.

People saying that race isn't an issue in this case makes me laugh just as much as Stephen Colbert saying that he sees no race. It is a bit ignorant to be completely believe that is had NOTHING at all to do with race.

Also back on topic, just like I expected those artists weren't going to stick to it but I guess on the other hand they weren't even involved with it in the first place so now you guys don't have to worry about people "hurting" for this boycott from celebrities.
A lot of other people view the whole situation as nothing more than Race Merchants grabbing and clawing for every opportunity that arrives to coincide with the media and promote the significance of discrimination as an explanation for racial inequality. Its one thing to express an opinion, but its a different ballgame all together when the president of the united states does it. I will give you an example of why I believe Obama's statement was politically incorrect. His statement brings up the question as to why he is not addressing the fact that 75% of black mothers in this country have children out of wedlock. Family structure itself is what should be addressed more importantly than Whine Merchandising. This is something that the black leaders of this country should address themselves, because I don't think they even want any help by the whites at all. Im not trying to turn this into a racial argument DJ, Im just debating the subject with you in presenting different views from both sides, nothing more.

As far as Stevie Wonder participating in a boycott, well that is just the nature of the music industry. Its done mainly just for notoriety and sales for the artist themselves more so than benefiting society.
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A lot of other people view the whole situation as nothing more than Race Merchants grabbing and clawing for every opportunity that arrives to coincide with the media and promote the significance of discrimination as an explanation for racial inequality. Its one thing to express an opinion, but its a different ballgame all together when the president of the united states does it. I will give you an example of why I believe Obama's statement was politically incorrect. His statement brings up the question as to why he is not addressing the fact that 75% of black mothers in this country have children out of wedlock. Family structure itself is what should be addressed more importantly than Whine Merchandising. This is something that the black leaders of this country should address themselves, because I don't think they even want any help by the whites at all. Im not trying to turn this into a racial argument DJ, Im just debating the subject with you in presenting different views from both sides, nothing more.

As far as Stevie Wonder participating in a boycott, well that is just the nature of the music industry. Its done mainly just for notoriety and sales for the artist themselves more so than benefiting society.
I disagree, the city we are both from is a cesspool of poverty & gun violence, I know he still had family here for a long time so I think it's more empathy than it is for show.
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I disagree, the city we are both from is a cesspool of poverty & gun violence, I know he still had family here for a long time so I think it's more empathy than it is for show.
I'd have to agree with you on this. If anybody in the music industry were to be considered empathetic it would be Wonder. Hes got a hell of a alot of integrity.
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I disagree, the city we are both from is a cesspool of poverty & gun violence, I know he still had family here for a long time so I think it's more empathy than it is for show.
You could very well be right concerning Stevie Wonder. One would think that he doesn't need such publicity. I was actually referring to other artist or bands in that particular situation, my bad.
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I'd have to agree with you on this. If anybody in the music industry were to be considered empathetic it would be Wonder. Hes got a hell of a alot of integrity.
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You could very well be right concerning Stevie Wonder. One would think that he doesn't need such publicity. I was actually referring to other artist or bands in that particular situation, my bad.
I don't think a lot of the other people do either, especially Kanye
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Clearly these aren't totally white countries.
I've discussed this multiple times, but yeah, they're white countries. White refers to both Indigenous European groups and Indo-European groups. Most White people are of Indo-European descent, meaning they're mixed from both Northern Indian Subcontinent and Indigenous European groups. This is substantiated by both anthropological and linguistic fact. This is why the Shah of Iran called himself the Light of the Aryans, this is why there's no shortage of blue-eyed, blonde haired people in the Middle East or South Central Asia, and this is why the census in the USA points out that people from these regions are White while you're filling it out.
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