Stevie Wonder Boycotts Florida Performances, Others Follow

FRED HALE SR. · 07-23-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

If you actually read my post you would know WTF I was boycotting. The law itself. Stand Your Ground. Go back and read what I typed.

But you said yourself that Zimmerman was innocent? That would lead me to believe that considering he was innocent that would make you believe in the bill all that much more. I mean afterall an innocent man defended himself right? Thoroughly confused is gonna read my tombstone.

djchameleon · 07-23-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

But you said yourself that Zimmerman was innocent? That would lead me to believe that considering he was innocent that would make you believe in the bill all that much more. I mean afterall an innocent man defended himself right? Thoroughly confused is gonna read my tombstone.

I said that he was not guilty not innocent.

Two different things

FRED HALE SR. · 07-23-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I said that he was not guilty not innocent.

They go hand and hand. If he was guilty of anything he would have done time. I'm gonna go finish off my plans for Disneyworld and make some Florida Orange Juice.

djchameleon · 07-23-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

They go hand and hand. If he was guilty of anything he would have done time. I'm gonna go finish off my plans for Disneyworld and make some Florida Orange Juice.

OJ Simpson was not guilty in his case but EVERYONE knows he did. He was far from innocent.

The same thing with Zimmerman. Even Zimmerman knows, he did some shady shit because he had to lie about so much related to the events that transpired that night.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 07-23-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

OJ Simpson was not guilty in his case but EVERYONE knows he did. He was far from innocent.

The same thing with Zimmerman. Even Zimmerman knows, he did some shady shit because he had to lie about so much related to the events that transpired that night.

witnesses pretty much back up everything zimmerman said.

i dont think zimm feels good about killin someone but he was left with no choice. i think many of us would have done the same

FRED HALE SR. · 07-23-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

OJ Simpson was not guilty in his case but EVERYONE knows he did. He was far from innocent.

The same thing with Zimmerman. Even Zimmerman knows, he did some shady shit because he had to lie about so much related to the events that transpired that night.

Everyone? What exactly did he lie about?

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 07-23-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 216

witnesses pretty much back up everything zimmerman said.

i dont think zimm feels good about killin someone but he was left with no choice. i think many of us would have done the same

So Marissa Alexander must not feel too great about shooting that drywall too, huh.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 07-23-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione

So Marissa Alexander must not feel too great about shooting that drywall too, huh.

im not talkin about her whatsoever thanks

djchameleon · 07-23-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Everyone? What exactly did he lie about?

I guess you didn't follow the case much.

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The lie: Zimmerman told his friend Mark Osterman—who has himself been a cop for over 20 years—that he was in a desperate struggle with Trayvon for Zimmerman's gun. Zimmerman never said this to police. But Osterman wrote in a book, and it was entered into evidence, that Zimmerman said, “somehow I broke his grip on the gun where the guy grabbed it between the rear site and the hammer. I got the gun in my hand, raised it towards the guy’s chest, and pulled the trigger.”
The truth: DNA evidence ruled out any real possibility that Trayvon ever touched Zimmerman's gun. The only DNA evidence on the gun's grip was that of George Zimmerman. None was Trayvon's. Zimmerman also claimed that Trayvon went for Zimmerman's holster. Anthony Gorgone, a DNA lab analyst for the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, testified as an expert witness that “Zimmerman's holster tested positive for only Zimmerman's DNA as well.”

The lie: Zimmerman claimed that Trayvon “bashed,” “slammed,” and “wailed” his head into the sidewalk. One of Zimmerman's lawyers claimed that the sidewalk was Trayvon's “deadly weapon.” Pictures of Zimmerman's alleged injuries have been shown repeatedly on tv.
The truth: There is no way that Zimmerman's head was repeatedly slammed into the sidewalk. As Dr. Valerie Rao, a medical examiner in Florida, testified, Zimmerman's injuries were “insignificant,” “so minor” that all they required was an ordinary band-aid.

The lie: Zimmerman told police investigators that Trayvon was circling his car, looking in at him, while Zimmerman was on the phone with the police dispatcher.
The truth: That would obviously be a big deal, and something Zimmerman, if he was actually concerned about his safety, would say to the 911 dispatcher while he was on the phone. Yet, somehow Zimmerman never mentioned this very crucial bit of information to the dispatcher while they were actually talking.

The lie: Zimmerman claims that Trayvon was straddling Zimmerman's chest, punching him, banging his head into the sidewalk, pinching Zimmerman's nose so he couldn't breathe, and reaching for Zimmerman's gun.
The truth: Journalist Charles Blow wrote about how Zimmerman's description of the fight scene is particularly incredible, saying “...partly because of ... the idea that Martin, while straddling Zimmerman, would be able to see a gun that was presumably behind him, and the idea that Zimmerman would feel Martin’s hand snake across his body, pinch that hand underneath his arm and then reach for and retrieve the gun himself. If Zimmerman’s hand was free enough for such a maneuver, were his hands not also free enough to try to push Martin off, or force Martin to release his head and not bang it against the concrete, or to hit Martin back (which he never says he does during the entire encounter)? Did Zimmerman’s mixed martial arts training provide him no defensive options whatsoever? Something about this just doesn’t sound right. And, by the way, how was Zimmerman able to get around Martin’s leg, retrieve the gun and aim it at Martin’s chest so easily?”

The lie: Zimmerman claimed that Trayvon “jumped out of bushes” and hit him, knocking him to the ground.
The truth: There are no bushes to jump out of where Zimmerman claims he was assaulted. This is clearly evident on the video where Zimmerman walked through his version of what happened with some Sanford police.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 07-23-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 216

im not talkin about her whatsoever thanks

You're talking about the Stand Your Ground bull**** that he used as a defense
much like you know, the gay panic defense? You know, which let a man get off murdering Harvey Milk because the dude ate too many twinkies?