Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1361879)

Can you please explain to me how Lady Gaga can be more groundbreaking than Madonna? She bases her entire image and music off of Madonna so how could she possibly be more groundbreaking? She doesnt have one classic album or song. She hasnt done anything remotely as iconic and groundbreaking as Madonna and she doesnt appeal to many different races/cultures etc.

Yes Lady Gaga is one of the bigger pop stars of her generation but that isnt saying a whole lot in a pop industry that builds products and backs them by machines. In other words, it doesnt mean that she is more talented or creative just because she has a million dollar backing.If you mean to tell me that all some artist has to do is do some outrageous antics and copy some chick 80's hair styles to be labeled as groundbreaking then something is really wrong.

(Not a huge Madonna fan but) Madonna was controversial and shocking but she was an artist She also had some classic pop tunes under her belt. She pushed herself and took risks. Gaga just tries hard to get attention because she knows that is what sells. I still dont see the artistic growth with her music or the artistry aspect about her. She still makes the same pop music. You can not outdo someone who has done it all already.


The VMA's over the last 10-15 years have been a joke and I think MTV is really playing a joke on the public with these award shows because they know they dont play music and even last year officially took the "music television" label off the channel. There is no way in hell JT deserved that MJ video vanguard award lmao and Im glad that he openly admitted he didnt. Pop music today is awful.... a mess. Im glad I didnt waste 2 hours watching that.

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1362106)

So she is original in that she is dirtier and sluttier than Madonna? Wow what a feat.

Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1362108)

Hello look at people who are copying Lady Gaga. Think of Jessie J or Kesha. They are more but I am too lazy to list them.

Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1362109)

Ke$ha is not copying Lady Gaga and to make such accusations shows the depth of your musical ignorance.

Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1362109)

Ke$ha is not copying Lady Gaga and to make such accusations shows the depth of your musical ignorance.

Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1362088)

MTV gave him that award because JT is the golden boy and the all mighty "white hope". He has another album coming out (Part II of the 20/20 experience) so it was a promotional tool so to speak. People dont vote on that and its determined by the producers for marketing reasons.

He said himself he didnt deserve it (which I respect him for saying). However, I dont know why someone would accept something they know they didnt deserve.

Whether you win a legend award, 35 grammys, etc it has no meaning if you dont have the catalogue and works to speak for it. Its just another statue taking up space. In 50 yrs NOBODY is not going to remember a single JT music video but they will be still looking at MJs. So that award means nothing

Originally Posted by Arya Stark (Post 1362089)

Damn that's upsetting. I don't remember any of his music videos either, really, so it's a pretty weird award to get.

Are there any artists now that you think deserved it more?

Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1362104)

I hear you but I was not implying that Gaga is better than Madonna. I never said that. What I said was when it came to her antics, she is a lot dirtier than Madonna. Madonna did dirty **** but compare to Gaga, it looks so innocently done. THAT IS A UNDERSTATEMENT.

But RealTalk92, you got to read my previous statements because I already made it clear on one thing. I have said and will continue to say that Lady Gaga is overrated. She is not as great as her and her fans want you to believe. Lady Gaga is total BS. Lady Gaga is talented and can sing but ruins with her total stupidity.

Anyway, you can deny Gaga has no influence but she does. I mean you have many Gaga wannabes (think Jessie J or Kesha, HELLOOOOO). Sooner or later, we will not only have Gaga but Gaga Wannabes around us. That will the new reality sooner or later.

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1362171)

So much pure hate. He is a legend and he got the award/recognition not only for his solo career but also for his work with N'Sync.



If you don't remember any N'Sync videos you are a dirty liar. If you don't remember Cry Me A River. You are a dirty liar. If you don't remember Rock Your Body video. Okay I can understand that but it was a pretty fun video. If you don't remember The Sexy Back video you are again a dirty liar. The what goes around comes back around video with Scarlett Johannsen? come on now. I could go on and on.