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Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 08:34 AM

That's wind hitting telegraph lines? Hah, I'm gonna start sitting under telegraph lines on windy days. Sounds good.

djchameleon 11-07-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1381692)
Also hmm another question, directed to anyone. Is 4'33" music?

lol is that the track that is just silence?

Plankton 11-07-2013 08:53 AM

If your of the Zen philosophy then yes, 4'33" is music. Otherwise it's just 6'-9" laterally.

Ninetales 11-07-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1381699)
lol is that the track that is just silence?

Yeah. It's supposed to be really emotional when witnessed live. It's like soaking in the affects of what was previously heard as well as the sounds you hear during.

Frownland 11-07-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1381692)
I only ask because it's just wind hitting telegraph wires. Alan Lamb set it up but didnt know what the final result was going to be.

(I do agree though; it's music)

Also hmm another question, directed to anyone. Is 4'33" music?

4'33" is definitely music, although I respect it on a more conceptual basis than a listening one. However, listening to it on noise cancelling headphones defeats the purpose :p:.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1381699)
lol is that the track that is just silence?

Well, the musicians are silent, but your environment (generally an orchestra hall, very echoey and full of spectators) does not, and that is the focus of the piece. I prefer Music of Changes to 4'33" because it uses silence well but does not let it overtake the whole piece.

Burning Down 11-07-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1381692)

Also hmm another question, directed to anyone. Is 4'33" music?

Absolutely. It's about the sounds around you, those are the focus of the piece. The piece is different every time it is performed, which is what Cage was going for. That's the simple explanation.

Rjinn 11-07-2013 05:28 PM

lol John Cage is such a tool.

But yeah, he believed everything we hear is music, and made a silent track so we could listen to what's around us. It's certainly a kind of genius.


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