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Do you talk to people about music IRL?
I frequently run into this situation where someone will mention a band that they like and I'll be like "oh yeah, I like them too! Your should also check out ____, they sound kinda similar." And then from that point onward all my musical interactions with this specific person are based on the assumption that I'm an aficionado of like... 80's underground music or something, I don't know. And they think that whatever genre we've discussed is the only genre I listen to, like the time my Nana found out I had gotten a cat and only bought me cat-themed presents (including a calendar) for Christmas. Then we run into a situation where they go through my phone or something and see my music and they're like "oh wow I didn't realize you were that into music. Can I listen to it?" so I'll put it on random or something and Sigur Ros will come on and the reply is invariably "this song doesn't have words... weird". It's to the point where I can't even have a conversation with someone about music because the only thing they'll talk about is how the 70s is the best time period ever because CLASSIC RAWK IS THE BEST AND NEW MUSIC SUCKS LOL.
And then I also run into a situation when I'm first meeting someone where they'll be like, "oh, so what kind of music do you listen to" and I realize I have 2 choices. 1. I can say "oh, I like pretty much everything" - sort of true when it comes to genres, but not when it comes to specific bands. If I choose this option I risk sounding like someone who doesn't care about music, which is not someone I want to be. 2. I can actually say what I like and list a bunch of bands/genres. This can work out well and lead to an interesting conversation if the person I'm talking to also has an interest in music. However, I risk sounding like a pretentious ******* or just boring them if they don't like music. I don't know, I've just stopped trying to talk to people about music. I usually end up being written off as "the hipster" or "the girl who listens to weird music", and honestly, I'd rather be listening to music than having an unfulfilling conversation about music with someone who doesn't really care. So do y'all talk about music IRL? And how do you handle it when it comes up in conversation? |
what youve said makes a lot of sense and i think ppl can relate. my friends and i really dont talk about music much. my one good friend is really into rap but guys on this forum would put him to shame. he likes the 90s era stuff and introduced me to it yrs ago so sometimes we will mention about a new release or single and talka bout it for a few minutes. my other good friend really likes the beatles and radiohead lol. if we are hangin out i will throw on some newer stuff to introduce to him but he is pretty indifferent.
when someone you dont know well asks what u like its hard to answer.... 'everythin' might as well be not even answerin. its like when ppl ask 'how are ya' and we all just respond 'good, u??' it gives no insight. but if you list your fave bands and you know the other person wont know them then ya kinda sound like some pretentious underground guy. i dunno i usually try to mention some mainstream bands that everyone in teh conversation can relate to and i at least sorta like. plus my fave bands are ghey as phuck to mention to others i am just meetin. i know the impression they will get and its not a good one so i usually try to not answer or deflect the question lol |
only really talk about music with 4 or 5 friends I've known for years. so we all kind of like the same things, or know what the other likes... a couple of them, literally the only thing we talk about when we meet up is music
as for talking about music with new people, not really. If you say you like "X" genre of music they'll assume you mean artists like "Y" and "Z", who invariably make the worst "X" music ever |
I like to think of it as if we are individually on a crusade to turn the world on to the style and type of music that we as individuals like to listen to. Music is always subjective and you usually end up with more opinions rather than any actual answers when in debate and discussion with others concerning most musical related topics. And these days everyone is a self-proclaimed music critic.
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I usually just say that it would be quicker to list the genres I don't listen to, haha. Or I say that my taste is quite eclectic and I like a bit of everything. Or I list a few genres that I like that I suspect the person I'm talking to might also like [for instance, if someone looks like a metal-head, I'm more likely to start a conversation with them about metal-core than chiptune]. This is perhaps presumptuous, but it does save time explaining that just because I'm happy to listen to say, Swedish pop music, doesn't mean I'm not also perfectly happy to listen to djent or prog or tech-core.
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Very seldom talk to anyone about music in my situation (stuck at home with no real access to others) but if I am in that situation I'll say something like "Oh I like mostly rock, some country, classical, metal, that sort of thing. None of the chart rubbish. And I hate rap and don't like jazz." Just gives a general idea --- probably inaccurate but still --- of the sort of music I listen to. If people then ask what are my favourite bands I'll wheel out Marillion, Genesis, Dan Fogelberg, Tom Waits, Maiden and their eyes usually begin to glaze over at which point I'll just shrug and say and loads of other bands. Most people outside of music fans wouldn't know half of them anyway.
Cool name by the way: how's Zaphod these days? ;) |
Most conversations about music that I have in Turkey go likes this:
Me: Omg, you would love ____! Them: Okay, I'll check it out (they never do). Me: And have you heard of ____? Them: No. Me: Oh...okay. So basically...everyone seems to be disinterested in music here. |
I have only recently made a few friends who I can talk to about music, otherwise when it comes to normal conversation music is the last thing I will bring up. It is perhaps the most frustrating act in the world trying to communicate about something you have a huge secret passion for with a person who isn't interested or isn't that into music outside of the top 40. On top of that I don't really listen to the same music as anyone I know, even my friends who I can talk to it about. I honestly prefer to just keep my music and me separate from the rest of my life, as sad as that is.
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^^^^ something I just thought about too, was how hard it makes it when you have a relationship with another music lover, be it a friendship, or otherwise it makes it harder to let go of..In my opinion...
I met a guy once who came in to the store I was working at, in a Neutral Milk Hotel t shirt, we had a moment, between music lovers, and I eventually talked the man out of his t shirt in January.. Save for this isolated incident, I have a hard time letting go of the few friends I have that share the same tastes in music as myself...all 4 of them... |
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I have only a hand full of friends that I can discuss music with. Mostly musicians, but there is one non-musician friend that I've known for over 25 years that will usually surprise me with something I've never heard.
He's 6'-5", slender build, and he shakes because of nerve damage from being beaten by his father as a child. He's been with me through thick and thin, and will always have my back. We both have very similar tastes, but I usually draw the line when it comes to some of the heavier stuff he likes. We basically compliment each other, and together we make a great team music-wise. He's the only person I've ever made a song in tribute to (other than my Daughter and Dad), but he's such a solid brother, he really deserves it. Other than that, I'm kind of on my own little musical Island, but I don't mind... I have places like this to go to. Here's the tune: Wiggles |
It is pretty easy for me to talk about music with people irl because I am not pretentious. I listen to chart music as well as non-chart music and end up recommended artists to people based off of the chart music they like.
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Basically. They don't have to be pretentious but they are super picky about what they listen to and heavily frown upon mainstream artists. I am not saying whether that is a good or bad thing but it is a fact.
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Obviously any of us can talk about the chart music we may listen to but it's obviously implied that we just don't bother discussing artists the people we are talking to aren't likely to know of.
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The ones that were of the "Yeah! Slayer rules! Brittany Spears is a poser! Pop music ****ing sucks!" type. I subscribed to that montra at one time, but was always a little leary of that mindset, because in my mind some pop is really good, but I couldn't let on for fear of being ridiculed. Now days, I don't give a **** what anyone thinks of me. It's hard to discuss music with some of my friends because of the fact that their eyes glaze over when I start talking about what effects are being used, naming guitars being used, rhythm types, etc. who the artist was influenced by... ad nauseam. |
Sure, I talk to people about music irl, just not to the extent that I do with people here. It's mostly within a particular niche for particular people. There's the friend I talk about jazz with, there's the friend I talk about 90s alt/indie/punk/hardcore with, there's the coworker I talk about 60s and 70s music with, and so on and so forth.
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My friends tell me I'm talking too much about music, but they come to me for recommendations so it's all good. Made a Spotify mixtape yesterday. Yesterday was a good day.
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Welcome to MB by the way. |
I talk to people about music:
1. If I know them, and I know they like good music. People who don't like good music aren't worth talking to about music. 2. Someone talks to me about music. 3. If I see someone randomly wearing a band shirt of a good band or music artist. That's really it, I talk to people about music, I think I know about 3 or 4 people who I can talk to about music, and only 1 of them really has interest/taste at the same level as me. We're music nuts, not everyone's going to be as crazy about music as us, and even some of the people on this site aren't as crazy about music as the others. This is where I go to talk about music more often than not, because it's a concentration of those people who enjoy music. |
Only with my closest friends, who happen to be my bandmates, so you could expect that. Sometimes I'll talk to people about music but it's usually when I find out they play an instrument or something like that. As for the "what do you listen to" question, I tell them mostly experimental music, jazz, psychedelic, and classical music. Sometimes they'll inquire on experimental music but when they have to ask it's like explaining colour to a blind man.
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Conversations I had with Mel, Paul, Hermione and Silenzio in plug are the ones I remember the most. Paul went to every conceivable concert imagine. Hermione has pretty cool taste, likes few of the same bands I do. Both Mel and Silenzio are musicians and know quite a bit about classical music. As soon as I almost get to know someone, they are off consumed by the things irl, like Blar... Quote:
I think you get that here too. One person might be into fourth wave emo and another is totally into totally into The Beatles and another into totally Madonna. You have to know what I mean, right? |
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I talk about music with my boyfriend quite a lot although he likes metal and I don't really haha. We still have a lot of bands/musicians and dj's that overlap though. But most of the metal stuff is far too heavy for me.
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Also, if you can't laugh at at least one thing in HHG2TG you're dead inside. Landlord of pub: "Going to the match this afternoon sir?" Ford Prefect: "No. No point." Landlord: "Ah yes. Arsenal without a chance, eh?" Ford: "No. It's just that the world is going to end." Landlord: "Yes, so you keep saying sir. (Pause) Lucky escape for Arsenal if it did, eh?" Ford: "Not really, no." :) |
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Anyway, I have a few people to talk music with. One in my closest group of friends. He's my gig buddy, my fellow sludge lover, but with a relatively open mind to bands and artists from Burzum through to The Smiths and Jethro Tull and Nina Simone. Music is a big, big foundation for our friendship. The only other people I feel comfortable with talking to about music and being myself in doing so, I dont see anywhere near as often. But will still go to local shows with them or go and see their bands etc. I joined up here to be able to talk about music more freely and discover more of it from like minded or knowledgeable people. I still like and need that, but I could be doing much worse when it comes to having people I can do that with in IRL also. |
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I had an excellent convo with Steph, Manky and Hermione on FB last night about music and other things. Not sure it counts as IRL though, considering it was with between internet friends on the internet.
May as well share it here: Stephenie Darnielle Rude. Tom Clancy The truth isn't rude. She won't let me help :( Stephenie Darnielle I just empathize with bad cooks because I'm dreadful myself. Haha. Hermione Matilda Stark #firstworldproblems Tom Clancy She doesn't use onions. Not even not serious. Hermione Matilda Stark Onions are fucking disgusting Tom Clancy Onions have feelings too. Chris Steven Onions have layers. Hermione Matilda Stark you have chlamydia. Tom Clancy Chris sprouts little white hairs when he is exposed to sunlight. Dumb Scotch. Hermione Matilda Stark Chris lives in a cave by a the sea and eats his own children then makes more children from his children Hermione Matilda Stark fucking Scots Chris Steven Cake. Everybody loves cake. Tom Clancy Parfaits are delicious. Stephenie Darnielle Someday you will fiiiiiind meeee caught beneath the laaaaaandsliiiiiiide Hermione Matilda Stark innnn a champagneee supernovaaa in the skyyyy Tom Clancy Is that Radiohead? Stephenie Darnielle Blur. Tom Clancy Ahh yes, Blur. That band with Ian Brown. Hermione Matilda Stark I thought it was The Stone Roses? Hermione Matilda Stark Dude Ian Brown is in the Happy Mondays Stephenie Darnielle Ohhhh Ian Brown, I was thinking Mark E Smith. Tom Clancy Didn't they form Gorillaz? Stephenie Darnielle No that was RZA. Hermione Matilda Stark Mark E Smith? Isn't he that guy who did some crazy rap album and killed a Korean guy??? Stephenie Darnielle Kathleen Hanna killed Kurt Cobain. Tom Clancy No, that was Noel Gallagher, frontman of The Fall. Hermione Matilda Stark Noel Gallagher? No Noel Gallagher's in Coldplay. They just won like 5 grammys Tom Clancy He just got lucky. Hermione Matilda Stark Aint that that Robin Thicke song everyone hates? Stephenie Darnielle Called Mumford and Sons or something? That he made with Kanye West? Hermione Matilda Stark No that was Macklemore's first single, he stole it from them I think??? Then he tried to make a song for Rick Santorum's campaign & divorced all the gays he just married. It was terrible Hermione Matilda Stark #kanyewouldhavenever #yeezuslovesthegays Tom Clancy Wipe that tear away now from your eye - Kanye West Sean Betteridge This was beautiful. Hermione Matilda Stark turn around, Kanye West. Hermione Matilda Stark every now and then Ye falls Stephenie Darnielle I'm tired, you tired, Jesus wept. Tom Clancy Beyonce was hot in that video **hides behind Internet** Hermione Matilda Stark Kardashian all on his mouth like liqqa Hermione Matilda Stark this is the best status + comments ever Amandria Vanesa I want to tape this conversation to my wall. Luke David Tyler Haha yes classic shoutbox banter here :) |
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