Is MB a Tiger Beat music forum?
 

I've heard the comment made before that Music Banter is the 'Tiger Beat' of all music forums. I often wonder if that might be true when looking over some of the threads posted in the rock
and metal forum. You almost never hear the discussion concerning the bands/artist like the Steve Miller Band, Bob Seger, Supertramp, Styx, etc.
I mean the list of bands and artists just goes on and on I could name that are never discussed here at music banter. Maybe a lot of the mainstream attention here is because most of the posters are newbies that only stay for a short period of time while making only a few posts and then leaving.

There are some really interesting things going on here at MB in the journal section for example by some of our members here, but the music discussion forums themselves seem to be lacking versatility in discussion most of the time.

mate, what are you talking about?
If you like AOR Rock, talk about it.
I've never met such a concentration of people who loved obscure and underground music as I have on Music Banter, so to say we're a mainstream forum is ridiculous.

Even if we are, who cares? The whole premise of this site is that it allows us to talk about whatever music we want.

I think Rock and Metal is a bad example because it's really not at the forefront of discussion on here. General, Punk, Indie, and Hip-Hop all regularly feature artists that could never be called mainstream! Likewise extracurricular MBing also leads to new discoveries - like plug dj. or one of the album clubs!

So more discussion of pop rock would make MB less mainstream?

No I don't mean that at all, I guess maybe it's because I mostly stay in the rock and metal, general music, pop music and the soul and R&B forums as so pointed out.

The question is not meant to insult anyones personal points of interest here at MB. :laughing:

I personally don't listen to much obscure or underground music.

Tiger Beat maybe...if you throw in NME, Rolling Stone and Vibe too. tbh I've seen music forums worse than this.

I always thought there was a back-lash of bands that were successful on AOR or Classic Rock radio platform. I don't know why they those 70s bands get edge out as being passé but not 70s' Heavy Metal and Punk bands from the same era. At least I got that feeling that they're not cool to talk about when I first joined and posted few of those bands like Eric Clapton, SRV, CCR and The Doors. I thought 'gee whiz if I couldn't talk about those bands without negative feedback then I had absolutely have no chance to talk about Les Paul, the Church or Pram.' So I never did. I accidentally found a of Montreal fan, so I thought 'wow my music taste can't be that horribly intolerable to other people.' Even though it was only one or people.

Though it seems that Velvet Underground, John Cale, JJ Cale, Leonard Cohen, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, the Pixie, Nirvana, Metallica and Madonna get mentioned plenty. I always thought MusicBanter should change the name to The Fans of Velvet Underground, John Cale, JJ Cale, Leonard Cohen, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, the Pixie, Nirvana, Metallica and Madonna Forum.

:clap: (Is tiger beat still in print?)

You forgot to mention Motorhead.

Yea I agree. I think the people here only seem interested in talking about rock or some obscure band not that that is a bad thing. There does not seem to be much interest in other areas besides that. The other forums barely have any activity.

:yikes: There are other parts of this forum?

I dissagree, I have seen other people post in soul, country, and jazz... There is a large group of us indie and obscure nerds here..But I'll have you know, I once entered a battle of wits with an unarmed man in the country thread..... ;-)

I am not saying that people never post in those forums but their is more activity in those forums than on the forums I mentioned.

I don't disagree there...

Sorry I edited my last post. lol

I think the Rock and obscure band forums get more attention than the soul, r&b, country forums

This is true! True True I say...But the point of the place is to be able to talk about whatever kinda music turns your crank... I love soul and funk, but you won't find me on the boards, as much because I try to not speak about music unless I have the cold hard facts to back it up, and or the strong opinion...I am not saying I'm not well versed, but I don't feel comfortable flexing my soul muscles...So you are more likely to find me in indie and obscure areas because that is my one of my strengths... But I have picked up more music off this board, then I could alone, (and I am a psycho for music...) So back to the original post, do I do not feel that this forum is like a TigerBeat magazine...

I am a newbie here but MB already helped me discovered artists I didn't know or simply get infos and opinions about other I already knew. I don't know what Tiger Beat is (I'm not from the US) but if MB is the Tiger Beat of the music forum, I want some Tiger Beat.

Well I think you should start flexing your soul muscles because you should show them off! ;)

You never know there might be something that you know that others might not now know and it also gives you an opportunity to learn more about a genre. I love soul but there is still so much to learn! Everyone does not know every single thing about a genre and that is okay.

I'm not familiar with the obscure band forum. It must be really obscure.

You need an invitation.

You spelled my name wrong on my invitation James.... My name is not Janszoon...

I just think it's the case that some bands just lose their relevancy and some don't.

In the mid to late 60s The Beatles & The Rolling Stones were outsold by The Dave Clarke Five, does anybody talk about them here?

I remember the 80s, It wasn't The Smiths or Pixies that were selling huge amounts of records then. It was stadium rock bands like Big Country, Simple Minds, INXS in the UK and hair metal in the U.S. How many of those bands do you see get talked about here?

Same for the 90s, It wasn't Neutral Milk Hotel that got any attention, in fact I didn't even see a magazine article about them until 2002. It was bands like Ocean Colour Scene, Cast & Dodgy in the UK and bands like Live, Uncle Kracker, Goo Goo Dolls & Bush selling vast amounts in the U.S.

Basically what it comes down to is the popularity of bands from the past depends on current trends, some stay current, some become relevant even if they may have sold no records at the time and some just drop off the face of the earth no matter how many millions they may have sold in their heyday.

Well said.

From what I can gather there is a lot of people here with eclectic tastes. I see alot of bands Ive never heard of in the albums youre diggin thread.

I mostly only float around in the reggae forum and general music so I dont have that much awareness on the forum as a whole but based on what ive seen i would say this place has people who dig a little bit of everything.

What's a tiger beat?

Tiger Beat

It's a kind of pasta.

Indie is the same as obscure and there are lesser known mainstream genres as well which falls under obscure. The forum overall caters to that as well as rock

Yet another ignorant post from my favorite member.

"Independent music (often shortened to indie music or indie) is music produced independently from major commercial record labels or their subsidiaries"

Independent music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some of the most well-known artists ever are indie artists.

Great input!

Now let me ask you this...

So if it is independent music that is backed by a label that is not commercial or mainstream (which can make independent artists hard to discover and less accessible to the general public) that means they are less well known than the mainstream artists. That means they are not playing on the radio, backed by the industry or commercialized so it would be harder to know about them unless you already are a fan or found out about them by researching. I am just curious as to how you personally would define that since you don't think that independent/indie music is obscure?

The dictionary definition of Obscure is "not discovered or known about;not well-known; not known to most people;likely to be understood by only a few people " so how would you define it since you disagree with the universal definition? :)

Has she never heard of Pitchfork or something?

Just because **** ain't on the radio doesn't mean nobody discovers it lol what a short-sighted thing to say

Good luck trying to argue that like Vampire Weekend for example is an obscure band despite them being indie.

This statement is short sighted lol

If you read over the obscure definition I gave it states that only a few people know about it but that does not mean a mass majority knows about a indie artist like they would a mainstream artist. Yea they have their niche fan base and some don't even have that. It still does not change the fact that they are obscure to the masses.

There are independent artists that gain enough traction to be played on the radio.

Look at your boy Macklemore that had three huge hits on the radio and took home Grammys.

Yeah, and again, try and convince anybody here that Arcade Fire, Vampire Weekend, MBV, NMH etc are only known by a few people. It'll be funny to see you try.

You live in your own little world and you only think the things you believe are true. "All indie bands are obscure" and "Amy Winehouse is underrated" are literally idiotic sentiments and both can easily be proven wrong by anyone with a brain.

That is so true.

Do you understand that Sony, Universal and Warner are the major companies that control 88.5% of the market? It is foolish to think every single album that they own publishing rights to are not obscure to the general public. There are probably a huge percentage of albums no one has ever heard here. Being on a big label doesn't insure popularity no more than being on a indie label insures obscurity.

In 1987, M/A/A/R/S had a number one single in multiple countries with 'Pump Up The Volume'. They were signed to 4AD, an independent label, making them an indie band.

Did that make them obscure at the time?

You mean like The Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears who were at Jive Records who were an independent label till 2002?

the best places to find music on this site are the journals and plug. mainly plug since its such a rapid thing leadin to more songs bein played

i dunno about op's question tho. its hard to have a lot of obscure convo about bands on a site so broad. cause there may only be 2 or 3 ppl in that convo. with a bigger band its just easier to get a lot of ppl in the discussion due to familiarity

you can go on an emo forum or hardcore forum and find more 'obscure' stuff a lot of times but most the posters there suck anyway

so i guess im fine with the way the forum is

It scares me that you know this....

And I am sure that the forum is fine the way you are, although with a few exceptions.

I didn't even know who Macklemore was before the Grammys and the reason why he won all those Grammy's was for political reasons because his album was not all of that.

Janelle is not even that that indie and more commercial than Macklemore and they did not give her not ONE nomination. Her album debut at number 5 and they did not giver her one.