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Paul Smeenus 04-02-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1434867)
How does "thats how you got the ladies" implies you have to sleep with them?

What planet are you on?

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1434867)
Doo Wop genre and singing talent of a male was a very attractive quality and considered charming during that time.


Maybe so but I'm saying I don't care, at all, ever in my life, how my musical interests reflect in any perceived attractiveness to others. I grew up listening to the progressive rock of the 1970's, groups such as Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, so on. Girls HATED that music and I was pretty unpopular with them despite being a very handsome young man. Didn't care then, don't care now.

I mean no disrespect to Doo Wop music, on the contrary.

Soulflower 04-02-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1434895)

What planet are you on?

lol

Obviously not the same planet your on


That phrase could mean many things it does not necessarily mean "sex"

It could mean "winning them over"

Attraction

Charming them to win their affection and so forth



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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1434895)
Maybe so but I'm saying I don't care, at all, ever in my life, how my musical interests reflect in any perceived attractiveness to others. I grew up listening to the progressive rock of the 1970's, groups such as Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, so on. Girls HATED that music and I was pretty unpopular with them despite being a very handsome young man. Didn't care then, don't care now.

I mean no disrespect to Doo Wop music, on the contrary.


I see your point.


I just personally liked the male groups during this period and liked the way they dressed, the charming personalities and the charming lyrics. It was a style that was also reflected not just in music but the way men treated women during the period as well. I just admire that, thats all.

djchameleon 04-02-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1434909)
I just personally liked the male groups during this period and liked the way they dressed, the charming personalities and the charming lyrics. It was a style that was also reflected not just in music but the way men treated women during the period as well. I just admire that, thats all.

What? The way men treated women? Like how causal it was to slap a woman in public? Women were treated like crap. You are definitely romantizing that decade.

Soulflower 04-02-2014 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1434912)
What? The way men treated women? Like how causal it was to slap a woman in public? Women were treated like crap. You are definitely romantizing that decade.


I am not speaking from a social and economical point....

Compared to that era and this era, men were gentlemen compared to how these triflin men act towards women now.

So are you saying men are more polite now towards women compared to that era?

I disagree.

djchameleon 04-02-2014 04:38 PM

No but I am also saying they weren't more polite back then either.

Women were treated like second class citizens.

Soulflower 04-02-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1434916)
No but I am also saying they weren't more polite back then either.

Women were treated like second class citizens.


But we are talking about two different things love.


Once again,

I am not speaking from a social and economical point because if I was then my opinion would be different but as far as chivalry and benevolent sexism is concerned, women were treated with more respect and courtesy because they were women and men felt like they needed to be "protected"

It definitely ain't like that in 2014 thats all I'm saying.

djchameleon 04-02-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1434918)
But we are talking about two different things love.


Once again,

I am not speaking from a social and economical point because if I was then my opinion would be different but as far as chivalry and benevolent sexism is concerned, women were treated with more respect and courtesy because they were women and men felt like they needed to be "protected"

It definitely ain't like that in 2014 thats all I'm saying.

I still feel like you are romantizing that period of time. Domestic violence seemed like it was a more causal thing and they wouldn't hesitate to slap a woman that spoke out of line.

Black Francis 04-02-2014 04:53 PM

I think you are both right, yes women were treated like 2nd class citizens but men were more respectful about how to treat a lady.

if you listened to the songs, men were serenading women not saying to them "Drop it like it's hot, bitch" or wthvr it is they say to bitches nowadays.



idk anybody in the world who think this is a bad song and im pretty sure we all know it. (all women btw, just saying)

Soulflower 04-02-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1434919)
I still feel like you are romantizing that period of time. Domestic violence seemed like it was a more causal thing and they wouldn't hesitate to slap a woman that spoke out of line.


Your still talking about social class.

I am specifically talking about how a man wanted to attract or win the affection of a potential female partner compared to today's society

In today's society, a man will holla out the we window, "hey shortie" "hey boo" "nice a%$"... they might even try to hug you and you don't even know them!

Back in the day it was not like that.

That is disrespect.

Men do not hold the door anymore... among other things.

It is a generational thing.

djchameleon 04-02-2014 05:01 PM

You know why chilvery is dead? Women killed it but that is a whole other topic and we have gone OT enough as it is.


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