What Makes a Good Singer?

Dylstew · 08-08-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Overcast

I prefer people with raw emotional voices usually more than I'd value technical skill

Efrim Menuck/Isaac Brock/Conor Oberst/Daniel Johnston/Maybe Phil Elverum would be good examples.

There is a balance obviously between the technical and the emotional that makes either or work. Not anybody could just pull it off.

I feel the same, although I enjoy both. This song really gets to me.

That's actual Screamo right? I can really hear the post-hardcore roots in it.
Hate it when people call any music with screaming screamo, or when they think that metalcore stuff is post-hardcore.

Overcast · 08-08-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew

That's actual Screamo right? I can really hear the post-hardcore roots in it.
Hate it when people call any music with screaming screamo, or when they think that metalcore stuff is post-hardcore.

Yeah it's definitely real screamo with that post-hardcore feel. This tag on last.fm has a lot with that:

Real screamo music - Listen free at Last.fm

And yeah I agree on that. Most people who make that assumption usually aren't into the harder genres as a whole though so I don't bother myself with them.

Dylstew · 08-08-2014, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Overcast

Yeah it's definitely real screamo with that post-hardcore feel. This tag on last.fm has a lot with that:

Real screamo music - Listen free at Last.fm

And yeah I agree on that. Most people who make that assumption usually aren't into the harder genres as a whole though so I don't bother myself with them.

ah, thanks for the tag, if I ever want to listen to that genre in the future I'll use it. It's a shame Post-hardcore and it's subgenres emo and screamo get lumped together with entirely different things and now have a bad reputation. Just look at LastFM's post-hardcore tag, it's a mess. Practicly 2 genres under the same name.

darkhorse91 · 08-08-2014, 11:02 AM

I think the actual tone of someone's voice and how well it fits with the music is far more important than being technically good. I'll take Kurt Cobain or Neil Young over Christina Aguilera any day.

Black Francis · 08-08-2014, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew

That's actual Screamo right? I can really hear the post-hardcore roots in it.
Hate it when people call any music with screaming screamo, or when they think that metalcore stuff is post-hardcore.

haha im one of those ppl

It's hard for me to distinguish genres im not used to hearing.

@Overcast

Cool song, im not usually into stuff like that but i liked that song.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 08-08-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Jared Leto screams like a newborn baby. I feel liberated having said that.

But regardless of your stance or your opinion of Jared Leto. You'd have to simply be saying the man can't sing out of spite. Because he can indeed sing pretty well. He may not be your cup of tea. But damn. When will people stop saying everything about a band sucks just because they don't like the band? It's ****ing ridiculous and frankly, the individual looks ignorant or like an ass.

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-08-2014, 11:26 AM

Was this Screamo when Kanye was doing it?

I think he is trying to incorporate Screamo in his live shows.

FRED HALE SR. · 08-08-2014, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

But regardless of your stance or your opinion of Jared Leto. You'd have to simply be saying the man can't sing out of spite. Because he can indeed sing pretty well. He may not be your cup of tea. But damn. When will people stop saying everything about a band sucks just because they don't like the band? It's ****ing ridiculous and frankly, the individual looks ignorant or like an ass.

No I truly believe he can't sing. He indeed can? He plays top 40 radio music in general and does it on an average basis. What is so very technical about his signing? He rarely changes the keys of his songs and sings in ultimately the same range every song, which comes across bland and boring. When he screams it sounds forced and he lacks any balls in his tone when he does scream. He clearly does that to appeal to his core audience, teenagers. I think his band is as average as they come also, and furthermore their videos suck also and lack direction. I think its far more ridiculous to result to name calling because you are offended by someones opinion on a band that generally just appeals to a teenage audience, it makes someone sound childish.

Black Francis · 08-08-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism

But regardless of your stance or your opinion of Jared Leto. You'd have to simply be saying the man can't sing out of spite. Because he can indeed sing pretty well. He may not be your cup of tea. But damn. When will people stop saying everything about a band sucks just because they don't like the band? It's ****ing ridiculous and frankly, the individual looks ignorant or like an ass.

I think you are the one who is ridiculous, ppl are free to share a negative opinion on a band they don't like, it's one thing to attack a band you don't like but it's another thing to attack the ppl who like that band and Fred attacked the band, in fact not even the band just Jared leto but you on the other hand attacked fred.

i don't like 30 second to mars and i think they suck and wrong or right that is MY opinion not a fact of life.

Why were you so defensive over his post? it's clearly an exaggerated joke.

FRED HALE SR. · 08-08-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

I think you are the one who is ridiculous, ppl are free to share a negative opinion on a band they don't like, it's one thing to attack a band you don't like but it's another thing to attack the ppl who like that band and Fred attacked the band, in fact not even the band just Jared leto but you on the other hand attacked fred.

i don't like 30 second to mars and i think they suck and wrong or right that is MY opinion not a fact of life.

Why were you so defensive over his post? it's clearly an exaggerated joke.

No I was dead serious. He was good in Requiem For A Dream i'll give him that.

08-08-2014, 11:02 AM	#24 (permalink)
darkhorse91 Groupie Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 19	I think the actual tone of someone's voice and how well it fits with the music is far more important than being technically good. I'll take Kurt Cobain or Neil Young over Christina Aguilera any day.

08-08-2014, 11:26 AM	#27 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	Was this Screamo when Kanye was doing it? I think he is trying to incorporate Screamo in his live shows.