CoNtrivedNiHilism

In a world of music, full of opinions and mixed up facts, of music elitists that knock every band that doesn't fit a certain criteria for them, what would everyone's opinion on calling certain members of whatever band, can't hack it wannabe's, exactly be?

I'm asking because sometimes I will go to the websites of whatever music magazine, see that they have put a compilation of 'greatest guitar players of past and present' together, and then go to maybe their facebook page to see what random peoples opinions are on the musicians that made the list and whether they feel they deserve to be on it at all. Most recently would by the lead player of Avenged Sevefold, Synyster Gates being listed as the 6th greatest guitar player of all time. Now, the list was complied by some radio station so I'm sort of like whatever about it. But the comments I read on my facebook about Synyster sounded a bit unfair. I say that because it seemed like those opinions were based around the fact that he's in Avenged Sevenfold. A lot of people love that band, but a lot of people also hate the band too. Me? I'm indifferent for the most part on Avenged Sevenfold.

Is it fair to bash a musician and say he's crap based on the band he's in and the music they have contributed to that band while in it? I don't think it is. There's instances where certain members or just a single member of a band is just on a whole other level musically, technically than their band mates. So they tone down what they can do to accommodate. In the case of Avenged Sevenfold and Synyster Gates. I think that from a technical standpoint or from a musical knowledge, Synyster is more versed than his band mates, to me he doesn't look to be all that challenged being in the band that he is in, I'm certain he's more capable than what people know him for in Avenged Sevenfold.

Anyway. That's not the point of the topic, just an example of what I mean. So, what do all of you think on the matter. Is it fair to judge a musicians capability as a musician by the work they're known for in whatever band they're a part of? I guess I am basing this around bands that are known to have a lot of haters, so basically people saying every band member is garbage just because of the band they're a member of.

Thoughts?

Thelonious Monkey

I think people should just watch them live, and then have a better opinion. Nickelback are the most hated band in the world, but if you watch them live, Chad is really a good singer.

Isbjørn

Alright, I've never heard him live, but to me Chad sounds as if he's really, really constipated.

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CoNtrivedNiHilism

hahaha, I think it's just the way his voice is when he sings, makes him sound that way. Don't care about the band he's in, but I also don't think he's the worst singer I've listened to either. I think the band as a whole unit is more capable than the music they make, but they make what they know sells records, they're largely still pretty successful this far in to their career. Whatever thought.

Keep those opinions coming peeps.

@ Pet_Sounds

Yeah man, I get what you're saying. So to some extent, maybe the hash certain members of a band gets is partly on them for not moving on to a band whose musically on their level.

Pet_Sounds

I also think that some musicians are meant to be solo artists and others are meant to be in a group. Take Bob Dylan. I doubt very much whether his music would be as good if he wasn't in complete control of it. On the other hand, the two halves of the Lennon-McCartney partnership didn't produce as well solo as when they were working together in a group.

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CoNtrivedNiHilism

Yet, some would argue that Lennon produced better music separate from McCartney.

Pet_Sounds

I really don't enjoy either's solo work except for a few songs, but that might be due to the fact that Lennon had other creative influences in the Plastic Ono Band, and McCartney had practically none.

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Isbjørn

He's not a terrible singer or anything. Singers in emo bands tend to have close to zero vocal talent, but at least they make me feel other things than whatever feeling you get from wasting your time listening to half-assed radio rock.

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CoNtrivedNiHilism

I was never partial to emo, pretty much at all. I bought an Armor For Sleep record because I thought the cover was cool, I knew they were this emo band but decided to give one of them a fair shot. I listened to the entire record, did nothing for me but honestly, the band just had nothing to offer.

I can't write off emo though. The genre did contribute things I feel were important to music overall. And yes, the music did have a knack for making even me feel certain things that were comparable to whatever I was feeling or going through at the time. Overall however, I never did get in to the genre, instead I dabbled.

Thelonious Monkey

Meh. I don't really like them. They were my first rock band, unfortunately. But I don't think I could listen to them again. But I still respect them. They all have talent, I guess. To some extent, Justin Bieber has talent. .