What is music, what is not?

DeadChannel · 12-26-2014, 01:59 AM

What are noises, what is music?

Machine · 12-26-2014, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadChannel

What are noises, what is music?

Let us have a forty-eight page two month long argument about it shall we?

Ninetales · 12-26-2014, 02:01 AM

whatever. I like listening to cool things.

DeadChannel · 12-26-2014, 02:03 AM

What is an argument, what is a debate...

No, I kid, although I clearly get a kick out of debating with opponents, seeing them driven before me and hearing the lamentation of ......

Wait what?

DwnWthVwls · 12-26-2014, 02:03 AM

I've come to the conclusion that I do not care about what is and isn't music. All I care about is pleasing my ears and mind with sound waves.

Ninetales · 12-26-2014, 02:12 AM

I guess to me, not allowing things to be included into being "music" means music isn't necessarily the best form of aural pleasure. which is a weird phenomenon imo. why not just make it all one? no lets separate it because because because

because its not musical!!

oh right. whatever.

Overcast · 12-26-2014, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

Just look up the word in a dictionary.

Just sayin'.

'music'

6.
any sweet, pleasing, or harmonious sounds or sound:
the music of the waves.

Zhanteimi · 12-26-2014, 03:27 AM

Okay, I'm back. Anyway, this is an interesting discussion but ultimately just a matter of opinion. My opinion is to think that found sounds and silence alone are not music unless part of a larger musical structure -- something with musical notes in it that can be put in a score. Others think differently. That's cool. All's good.

Thelonious Monkey · 12-26-2014, 08:44 AM

After reading this thread, and researching it a bit, I've come to the conclusion that 4'33' is music. Not my type of music, but music nonetheless. I guess I was looking too closely to the word "silence", and taking it as I saw it. To be fair though, was 4'33' even silence? There was a bunch of different noises from the audience, like coughing and moving about. It's not something I would enjoy listening to, but sure, I'll call it music.

Chula Vista · 12-26-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

Anyway, this is an interesting discussion but ultimately just a matter of opinion.

Yup.

Some are of the opinion that 4'33 is music.

Some are of the opinion that 4'33 is not music.

Cage accomplished his goal I think.

Cage.

12-26-2014, 01:59 AM	#471 (permalink)
DeadChannel Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 1,259	What are noises, what is music?

12-26-2014, 02:01 AM	#473 (permalink)
Ninetales Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: livin wild Posts: 2,179	whatever. I like listening to cool things.

12-26-2014, 02:03 AM	#474 (permalink)
DeadChannel Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 1,259	What is an argument, what is a debate... No, I kid, although I clearly get a kick out of debating with opponents, seeing them driven before me and hearing the lamentation of ...... Wait what?

12-26-2014, 02:12 AM	#476 (permalink)
Ninetales Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: livin wild Posts: 2,179	I guess to me, not allowing things to be included into being "music" means music isn't necessarily the best form of aural pleasure. which is a weird phenomenon imo. why not just make it all one? no lets separate it because because because because its not musical!! oh right. whatever.

12-26-2014, 03:27 AM	#478 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,874	Okay, I'm back. Anyway, this is an interesting discussion but ultimately just a matter of opinion. My opinion is to think that found sounds and silence alone are not music unless part of a larger musical structure -- something with musical notes in it that can be put in a score. Others think differently. That's cool. All's good.

12-26-2014, 08:44 AM	#479 (permalink)
Thelonious Monkey Caesar is home. Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	After reading this thread, and researching it a bit, I've come to the conclusion that 4'33' is music. Not my type of music, but music nonetheless. I guess I was looking too closely to the word "silence", and taking it as I saw it. To be fair though, was 4'33' even silence? There was a bunch of different noises from the audience, like coughing and moving about. It's not something I would enjoy listening to, but sure, I'll call it music.