Controversial opinion on music?

Mondo Bungle · 02-06-2015, 02:47 PM

Guess it's not anymore

Aux-In · 02-06-2015, 02:52 PM

I listen to a lot of electronic dance music (not so much strictly pop/dance), and I have to agree with the OP. I am not much of a fan of the videos with generic party scenes, particularly if I think the song has more meaning than that. With that said, dance music isn't intended to be high art, generally speaking, and we're not curing cancer here.

Here is an example. You can experience this song in two ways: 1) listening first without watching the video, or 2) listening to the song while watching the video.

Will your choice affect how you view the song?

If you chose option #2, how did it affect your outlook? The song is somewhat of a generic dance song and the lyrics aren't good, but it's a fun song. However, the fact remains that those ladies look completely ridiculous.

I don't think it's an age-specific thing, per say, it is just that sometimes the dancing stuff looks silly. J-Lo being a recent example in her newer video. I mean, she's a mother and she's what, 40+ still acting like a young 20-something?

Now, the question is, what is the difference between dancing and, say, moshing or head-banging? Perhaps not much, as they are both body-movement activities. One's just deemed cooler than the other.

Mondo Bungle · 02-06-2015, 02:57 PM

Explosions in the Sky is the kind of post rock I think is lame, and thousands of bands do the same thing. If you don't then good on ya.

Machine · 02-07-2015, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

Explosions in the Sky is the kind of post rock I think is lame, and thousands of bands do the same thing. If you don't then good on ya.

Yeah I'd agree adding This Will Destroy You, Caspian, and The Antlers to that category they're all so bland.

Overcast · 02-07-2015, 05:23 AM

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Yeah I'd agree adding This Will Destroy You, Caspian, and The Antlers to that category they're all so bland.

The Antlers??? Not sure how they have anything to do with post-rock.

This Will Destroy You will always be a personal favorite of mine because they were one of the first post-rock bands I fell in love with. Young Mountain will always be a love of mine.

grtwhtgrvty · 02-07-2015, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Overcast

The Antlers??? Not sure how they have anything to do with post-rock.

This Will Destroy You will always be a personal favorite of mine because they were one of the first post-rock bands I fell in love with. Young Mountain will always be a love of mine.

Idk I can definitely hear a Post-Rock influence on Hospice, especially on songs like Sylvia. It has a micro-crescendo aesthetic with lots of loud and quiet sounds. I admittedly don't listen to that album when I am looking for artistic innovation. I think that post-rock is kind of a lazy label for that album, though. I'd sooner call it dream pop / alternative folk.

Death Consciousness by Have a Nice Life is another amazing post rock influenced album. But Deathconsciousness is kind of in a realm of it's own and is way more post-punk / shoegaze / drone than anything else. Giles Corey doesn't have the post rock aesthetic even remotely but I think there is definitely an influence based on the way the songs are structured. Fun fact, the person behind Giles Corey is also the person behind Have a Nice Life.

Idk. People always reference Loveless by My Bloody Valentine as the quintessential shoegaze album but I've always thought Deathconsciousness blew it out of the water. Earthmover, the climax of the album, is easily one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard, easily one of the most heart wrenching things, heartbreaking in a way only the man behind Giles Corey is capable of.

Machine · 02-07-2015, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Overcast

The Antlers??? Not sure how they have anything to do with post-rock.

This Will Destroy You will always be a personal favorite of mine because they were one of the first post-rock bands I fell in love with. Young Mountain will always be a love of mine.

From what I've heard they're very close to style. And that's fair for This Will Destroy You I could say the same for Sigur Ros.

JennyOndioline · 02-07-2015, 12:18 PM

Explosions in the Sky is like the **** beer you buy when you first start drinking. It's enough to get you buzzed and you really enjoy it in your late teens - early 20's, but eventually you'll want to expand your palette and when you do you realize that there's so much better **** out there.

Disagree on the Antlers though, if only because Hospice is one of the most devastating albums ever recorded. Not the biggest fan of their later work, though.

Zer0 · 02-07-2015, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Machine

From what I've heard they're very close to style. And that's fair for This Will Destroy You I could say the same for Sigur Ros.

I don't think Explosions in the Sky, Sigur Ros and This Will Destroy You sound much like each other. The only thing they have in common is the post-rock tag.

grtwhtgrvty · 02-07-2015, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JennyOndioline

Explosions in the Sky is like the **** beer you buy when you first start drinking. It's enough to get you buzzed and you really enjoy it in your late teens - early 20's, but eventually you'll want to expand your palette and when you do you realize that there's so much better **** out there.

Disagree on the Antlers though, if only because Hospice is one of the most devastating albums ever recorded. Not the biggest fan of their later work, though.

Yeah dude. With Hospice, it's really not about the artistry behind the music, moreso the devastating heartbreak that is being expressed.

02-06-2015, 02:52 PM	#112 (permalink)
Aux-In Wrinkled Magazine Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: In Time Posts: 467	I listen to a lot of electronic dance music (not so much strictly pop/dance), and I have to agree with the OP. I am not much of a fan of the videos with generic party scenes, particularly if I think the song has more meaning than that. With that said, dance music isn't intended to be high art, generally speaking, and we're not curing cancer here. Here is an example. You can experience this song in two ways: 1) listening first without watching the video, or 2) listening to the song while watching the video. Will your choice affect how you view the song? If you chose option #2, how did it affect your outlook? The song is somewhat of a generic dance song and the lyrics aren't good, but it's a fun song. However, the fact remains that those ladies look completely ridiculous. I don't think it's an age-specific thing, per say, it is just that sometimes the dancing stuff looks silly. J-Lo being a recent example in her newer video. I mean, she's a mother and she's what, 40+ still acting like a young 20-something? Now, the question is, what is the difference between dancing and, say, moshing or head-banging? Perhaps not much, as they are both body-movement activities. One's just deemed cooler than the other.

02-07-2015, 12:18 PM	#118 (permalink)
JennyOndioline Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 154	Explosions in the Sky is like the ** beer you buy when you first start drinking. It's enough to get you buzzed and you really enjoy it in your late teens - early 20's, but eventually you'll want to expand your palette and when you do you realize that there's so much better ** out there. Disagree on the Antlers though, if only because Hospice is one of the most devastating albums ever recorded. Not the biggest fan of their later work, though.