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Mondo Bungle 02-05-2015 09:54 PM

Everyone making music is just ripping off the first person to make music and Paul McCartney is ripping off Nickelback

grtwhtgrvty 02-05-2015 09:55 PM

Is Paul McCartney actually ripping off Nickelback cause I haven't listened to anything he's made recently

Can you imagine

grindy 02-05-2015 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1547914)
All music is just ripping off other music, why don't we stop making music ever

That would be just ripping off 4'33''.

grtwhtgrvty 02-05-2015 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1547919)
That would be just ripping off 4'33''.

I actually think 4'33 is a really cool commentary on music. Idk if that's controversial around here.

Mondo Bungle 02-05-2015 09:59 PM

In this life, you can't win, sure you can try, but you're just gonna lose, BIG TIME.

- School of Rock

Zyrada 02-05-2015 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by grtwhtgrvty (Post 1547916)
That's not true though.

... but it absolutely is true. To say something is derivative is a totally meaningless criticism in and of itself because all music/art comes from something else in some form. Jazz musicians even unabashedly steal from other jazz musicians as a core part of the culture.

Overcast 02-05-2015 10:01 PM

I like how the thread shifted completely in only a few posts.

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Originally Posted by grtwhtgrvty (Post 1547920)
I actually think 4'33 is a really cool commentary on music. Idk if that's controversial around here.

There was a huge debate about it here:

http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...-what-not.html

grtwhtgrvty 02-05-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyrada (Post 1547922)
... but it absolutely is true. To say something is derivative is a totally meaningless criticism in and of itself because all music/art comes from something else in some form. Jazz musicians even unabashedly steal from other jazz musicians as a core part of the culture.

This is turning into a vocabulary lesson real quick. Obviously everything is inspired by something and nothing is completely and utterly 110% unique but the term 'derivative' doesn't mean "inspired by", it means 'imitative of".

Like Bjork's 'Debut' was really the birth of dance-pop but Bjork's 'Debut' isn't derivative of dance music.

Death Grips incorporates industrial sounds into their music but Death Grips isn't derivative of industrial music.

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Originally Posted by Overcast
There was a huge debate about it here:

I think it made a lot of people realize how powerful silence can be in music, and how the absence of sound can, in of itself, be an element in the music.

Frownland 02-05-2015 10:18 PM

Death Grips is pretty derivative of this though



This too


grtwhtgrvty 02-05-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1547929)
Death Grips is pretty derivative of this though



This too


I don't think that even remotely resembles Death Grips.

Honestly when I listen to that I'm not really reminded of Death Grips - I'm reminded of Limp Bizkit lol.

@ The first one

I always sort of saw Blackie more along the lines of Hardcore Punk disguised as hip hop.


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