Why don't the current mainstream pop stars care about social issues?

Ninetales · 03-06-2015, 02:02 PM

just because im not eating spaghetti right now doesn't mean I don't like it at all.

**Frownland** · 03-06-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

Baby what I tell you about starting arguments in public?

A real artist will make material that reflects their inner feelings and input, thats what makes an artist. They create things based on their feelings and what burns in their heart.

And it's impossible to expose some passions but not others?

Who gives a **** about 'true' artists though? Quit moving the goalposts.

~~Soulflower~~ · 03-06-2015, 02:02 PM

Oh I got somethin for u boo when we get home, you wanna act up I see... Also, it passion does not consists of just social issues but yes an artist should be sincere and care about their craft. A real artist is not going to just put out anything and not have any sincerity behind it, Thats what makes an artist.

**Frownland** · 03-06-2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

Oh I got somethin for u boo when we get home, you wanna act up I see... Also, it passion does not consists of just social issues but yes an artist should be sincere and care about their craft. Thats what makes an artist.

But it sounds quite a bit like you're saying that if an artist doesn't make music that reflects all of their passions then those other passions don't exist at all, which is quite clearly bull****. A director can make all of their films about aliens and be passionate about animal rights. That director's art doesn't negate that.

And do you think it might be possible that some artists aren't willing to alienate audience members by getting all preachy? Or that they may not be able to write a good song outside of a certain style they're familiar with and can't write a good song about one of their passions? I know you like to look at the modern music world through a blindfold but your leaving out a multitude of factors by saying 'well they don't make music about it so I guess they just don't care about it.'

**Frownland** · 03-06-2015, 02:15 PM

Also you should look into this before you start babbling about 'true artists'.

No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

~~Soulflower~~ · 03-06-2015, 02:20 PM

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But it sounds quite a bit like you're saying that if an artist doesn't make music that reflects all of their passions then those other passions don't exist at all, which is quite clearly bull****. A director can make all of their films about aliens and be passionate about animal rights. That director's art doesn't negate that.

And do you think it might be possible that some artists aren't willing to alienate audience members by getting all preachy? Or that they may not be able to write a good song outside of a certain style they're familiar with and can't write a good song about one of their passions? I know you like to look at the modern music world through a blindfold but your leaving out a multitude of factors by saying 'well they don't make music about it so I guess they just don't care about it.'

Boo Boo thats not what I am saying at all. Boo why so angry? What I'm saying is an artist creates regardless whether they are discussing something of substance or not. An artist imo is someone who is actively involved in the direction of their music, involve in songwriter and production etc. This is why I said an artist gives a piece of themselves or who they are in their work (regardless). The pop stars out now are not true artists in that respect because they are representing corporations and labels which is why I asked why labels are not interested in touching social issues in songs.

Chula Vista · 03-06-2015, 02:23 PM

F*cking amazing.

**Frownland** · 03-06-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

Boo Boo thats not what I am saying at all. Boo why so angry? What I'm saying is an artist creates regardless whether they are discussing something of substance or not. An artist imo is someone who is actively involved in the direction of their music, involve in songwriter and production etc. This is why I said an artist gives a piece of themselves or who they are in their work (regardless). The pop stars out now are not true artists in that respect because they are representing corporations and labels which is why I asked why labels are not interested in touching social issues in songs.

Hmm...so who cares about whether you think an artist is true (read: old) or not (read: new)? That doesn't discredit their passions.

~~Soulflower~~ · 03-06-2015, 02:26 PM

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Hmm...so who cares about whether you think an artist is true (read: old) or not (read: new)? That doesn't discredit their passions.

There passions are not theirs and there to shallow to get a backbone because there tied to strings while labels pull them in every which way.

**Frownland** · 03-06-2015, 02:27 PM

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There passions are not theirs and there to shallow to get a backbone because there tied to strings while labels pull them in every which way.

But how does that result in them not caring about social issues?

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