Why don't the current mainstream pop stars care about social issues?

~~Soulflower~~ · 03-05-2015, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

^Because they're looking for something fun and upbeat when they turn on the radio and social issues tend to be downers. You don't think that the music industry has done any research to come to this conclusion? With it being so massive I'd say that they have loads of evidence to support their actions from a profit-based perspective. Music can be a powerful tool, but so can social media. I think you're completely ignoring the fact that there are other facets for social issues to become known outside of music. I would say that social media is even more effective than popular music in this sense, because there are a lot of self-righteous *******s like myself who avoid the radio and participate in social media so it has a wider reach. That's not to mention that while people do take the words of their idols seriously, they also give a lot of heed to what their friends, family, and acquaintances say through social media.

I never refuted that there were not other areas besides music that could reach people. I just argued that music is still a powerful tool that can also be used to reach and influence people. It makes no sense that everything that has went on the last couple of years in this country with police brutality, racism, and gun violence that these issues can not be discussed in music as well.

I don't think the corporations are producing music that they know people like. I think it has an agenda.

**Frownland** · 03-05-2015, 09:49 AM

Soulflower, the burden of proof is on you to back up your statement saying that modern artists don't contribute as much as other artists did. You can't just go "nope, not true because I don't like that idea" when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about with these regards to modern pop stars and charities. If you did, backing your claims would be no problem. Wanna give it a go?

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

I never refuted that there were not other areas besides music that could reach people. I just argued that music is still a powerful tool that can also be used to reach and influence people. It makes no sense that everything that has went on the last couple of years in this country with police brutality, racism, and gun violence that these issues can not be discussed in music as well.

No ****. My point was that those other mediums are becoming the norm whereas the glory days that you yearn for had a norm of social issues being relegated to the music world.

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I don't think the corporations are producing music that they know people like. I think it has an agenda.

That agenda is money. Money made from people who listen to the music that the corporations make. Music that they like from those corporations. BTW, you got a tin foil hat I can borrow?

jackhammer · 03-05-2015, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoh

I think the main audience of pop music has shifted towards the youth, and as a result, pop music has been transformed into a genre of catchy choruses and upbeat tunes

Err that has always been the case since the 60's. Nothing has changed.

Surell · 03-05-2015, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

That childish Beyonce song does not reference anything political

Bey told me it did.

RoxyRollah · 03-06-2015, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

I never refuted that there were not other areas besides music that could reach people. I just argued that music is still a powerful tool that can also be used to reach and influence people. It makes no sense that everything that has went on the last couple of years in this country with police brutality, racism, and gun violence that these issues can not be discussed in music as well.

I don't think the corporations are producing music that they know people like. I think it has an agenda.

Why cant it be that the pop star is just a tepid shallow individual? Why does it have to be a music machine conspiracy. Personally there isnt a pop star living or dead that I'd sit down and have a politically, or socially ethical charged conversation with. They don't live in the world I live in.Money,glitz and glam change everything. Also,what on earth do I possibly want to hear their opinion for? Its not rooted in anything that remotely parallels my exsperience as a person.Music is to a degree soley entertainment, Im not saying it can't changes lives etc,but if I wanted a politcal debate or the 411 I'd turn on the news or an election.

Dylstew · 03-06-2015, 06:48 AM

Honestly I really don't give a ****.

RoxyRollah · 03-06-2015, 06:54 AM

Snob^.

Dylstew · 03-06-2015, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Snob^.

:'(

RoxyRollah · 03-06-2015, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

I never refuted that there were not other areas besides music that could reach people. I just argued that music is still a powerful tool that can also be used to reach and influence people. It makes no sense that everything that has went on the last couple of years in this country with police brutality, racism, and gun violence that these issues can not be discussed in music as well.

I don't think the corporations are producing music that they know people like. I think it has an agenda.

Jen, The issues you are addressing, are issues that are not disccused in, oh I dunno mainstream hip hop or rap.They kinda talk about perpetuating the problem,gloifying it or romaticinsing so that every higschooler from here to the hinterlands thinks that robbery,pimpin,and murder are good things. The problem is social activisim isnt entertainment. And if you ask these ppl what their job is they will more then likely say,"Im an entertainer" Or "Im an artist". They dont say "Im Angela Davis or one of the weather underground" . Which is what you exspect from activists.You are wanting your idols to actually be heros instead of ****ed up people working out their own demons,or spreading ****ty sunny pop tunes.

Chula Vista · 03-06-2015, 08:32 AM

*muffled applause from beneath the floor under Roxy's feet*

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