Which parts to you seemed like guessing?

Electronic music covers a pretty huge swath of what's out there. Nothing at all from any of the past six or seven decades of electronic music appeals to you in any way? Doesn't Filter have a electronic element to their sound?

I have it playing right now and it sounds similar to their other stuff to me, but I'll try to give it a full listen at some point.

If all the bands in the top 40 sounded like Led Zeppelin or Nirvana, maybe pop music wouldn't entirely be derivative and safe.

what do you mean less obscure places? if you don't like mainstream music ok cool. don't listen to it and don't cry about it. this guy just comes across as another edgy 2cool4skool teen. "waah people need to like my music".

Yes indeed, Filter does have electronic elements to their sound, Richard likes that type of thing. But it's not straight up electronic music, it's got the live instruments with it so it doesn't sound so plain to me. And I'll be frank with you Jansz. I haven't really listened to a whole lot of electronic music my entire life. I've heard songs here and there, but it probably wasn't the 'good' stuff. I told whats his name that probably six times. If you want to point me in the right direction to something electronic that you think will appeal to me, I'll give it an honest listen.

Title Of Record had a little more of an experimental sound to me, I thought it was a more cohesive record, a bit stronger. The Amalgamut got weird, but I liked it, truthfully there isn't a Filter record I don't like. I'm not going to push it on you though. If you like any of what you hear and think there's more to Filter than what some claim, cool. If your opinion stays the same as it was before you listened to anything else by them, also cool.

I actually didn't mean less obscure. I meant that if people want to get away from mainstream, look for independent artists/bands, or sites that promote non-commercial/mainstream music. I dig through YouTube and other sites every day for undiscovered gems.

Again people just talking **** because they're too ignorantly stuck in the past, and just essentially having a temper tantrum. Lmao and hold up, how can anyone say that musicians flaunt their wealth and dont care. Kendricks new album is so engrossed in it's political message there's hardly any braggadocio in there about wealth etc. What are you talking abouuuut

A question about electronic music. I've seen a lot of people complain that electronics used in music make it too easy for anyone to be a musician or something along those lines, because there isn't necessarily any talent behind it. Aside from not agreeing on the talent factor, wouldn't you say that making it easier to make good music is a bad thing? Sure there's a lot of **** out there but that's true for acoustic instruments playing those cheesy love songs you fawn over as well. That's not to mention that electronic music doesn't entirely rule out acoustic instruments, since electronics don't always start off with a synthetic sound but sometimes use recordings of regular instruments and likewise. With electronics, you could easily produce either a Skrillex song or recreate "Within You Without You" to a tee since there is so much that you can do with the technology these days.

This tired argument that the OP puts forward was seen in the rise of rock 'n' roll and the guitar amp gaining popularity. The electric element was seen as synthetic and lacking in the organic sound that you would get from a nice piece of wood. Also with electric guitar strings not having to be so heavy of a gauge do to their amplification, this made it a lot easier for people to play faster on guitar and largely made the instrument easier to play if you were going to choose an electric instrument.

The way I see it, the rise in electronics (which is by no means a new thing, it goes all the way back to the early 1900s ffs) is sort of like the electric guitar. It's revamping an old idea using more modern technology while having the potential to contribute to the evolution of music. However, people have only seen this be used for "evil" ie pop music, which a lot of anti-electronics people seem to hate (except for the music of the glory days before they grew up and matured into a sense of cynicism. Now that was REAL music man). Electronics have been around for a long time, longer than rock music even, and the diversity within the field is immense. You've probably listened to quite a bit of electronic music without even realizing it since the technology has evolved so much.

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Yes is true.

That's awful. Talent is the only thing that matters in music.