Love or Hate?

The Batlord · 08-11-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Trollheart, are you really going to let him talk to you like that? After all the work you put into this site?

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Avenge your fallen brothers Troll

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Is there any need to continue this? It's TH's thread, and we should respect the direction he wants it to go.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Ok.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

As a proud Irishman, I resent that!

The difference is I only set the rules for this thread, I don't try to tell people what to post outside of it. Big difference. This is my thread, all the work done here is carried out by me, so I can set the rules. There's nothing pretentious about that. If you weren't joking then when did you tell me to "lighten up", indicating that you weren't serious? Anyway as I said, the point it moot: this is my thread and I'll set the rules. Oh, and look! I have done. You don't like it, you're free not to, that's your own choice. But take your comments elsewhere and don't be bothering me in here. I've work to do, and lots of it.

End of conversation. Thanks for playing.

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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther

Dude, he said "ok", there's no reason to continue to pick at this scab.

Chula, please just stop now (you'll be the better man for it), so we can get out of this argument loop. It's just making us all dumber.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

This sort of thing annoys me. I'm finished now, but why should I have let him have the last word? You're all posting when I'm in bed; I've only got to check this thread now, so I wanted to say what I had to say. And I did. That's my right. Anyway as I said it's over now, but how you can say Chula is the better man when he damn well started this out of nothing staggers me.

Anyway, that's it; I don't want to talk about it any more or hear any more about it. It's pointless drivel and I've better things to do.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Just be the bigger man and let it end without worrying about having the last word.

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

This went from a great thread to a completely awful thread

R.I.P.

Trollheart · 08-11-2015, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

This went from a great thread to a completely awful thread

R.I.P.

It certainly is not over yet. It'll take more than that to kill it. I'd love to get back into the reviews now, but I really have to concentrate on the research and writing for Metal Month III, and my first review in the "1001 Metal Albums You Must Hear Before You Die" journal just went up today, so yeah, my in-tray is pretty full. But it will return in all its glory, don't you worry.

Justthefacts · 08-11-2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

It certainly is not over yet. It'll take more than that to kill it. I'd love to get back into the reviews now, but I really have to concentrate on the research and writing for Metal Month III, and my first review in the "1001 Metal Albums You Must Hear Before You Die" journal just went up today, so yeah, my in-tray is pretty full. But it will return in all its glory, don't you worry.

With all due respect Troll, how do you get the time to cater to all us douchebags? I figure you to be the man with an upstanding wife, better job and a handful of kids.

TechnicLePanther · 08-11-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

With all due respect Troll, how do you get the time to cater to all us douchebags? I figure you to be the man with an upstanding wife, better job and a handful of kids.

The answer to your question is the opposite of your figuring.

Trollheart · 08-11-2015, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

With all due respect Troll, how do you get the time to cater to all us douchebags? I figure you to be the man with an upstanding wife, better job and a handful of kids.

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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther

The answer to your question is the opposite of your figuring.

It is actually. I'm not married, have no kids, and my job consists of looking after my sister fulltime. You'd think that would mean I'd have loads of free time but somehow it doesn't work out that way. I almost think I have less free time now than I had when I worked, for almost thirty years.

Luckily, I have no life, so I guess that's the answer. Plus I love what I do and am passionate about it (sometimes too passionate, as you've seen) and once I'm committed to something I like to do my best to see it through. Positive feedback and understanding go a long way towards keeping me dedicated to things like this also.

Plankton · 08-11-2015, 01:29 PM

You're definitely an asset to the site, TH, and I was kind of annoyed to see this thread get derailed like it was. Petty little crapfest as it was. Just a hiccup though. Back on track, as they say. Roit.

Trollheart · 08-11-2015, 01:39 PM

Thanks man. Big news coming in about half an hour. Stay tuned...

Justthefacts · 08-11-2015, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

It is actually. I'm not married, have no kids, and my job consists of looking after my sister fulltime. You'd think that would mean I'd have loads of free time but somehow it doesn't work out that way. I almost think I have less free time now than I had when I worked, for almost thirty years.

Luckily, I have no life, so I guess that's the answer. Plus I love what I do and am passionate about it (sometimes too passionate, as you've seen) and once I'm committed to something I like to do my best to see it through. Positive feedback and understanding go a long way towards keeping me dedicated to things like this also.

YorkeDaddy · 08-11-2015, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

It certainly is not over yet. It'll take more than that to kill it. I'd love to get back into the reviews now, but I really have to concentrate on the research and writing for Metal Month III, and my first review in the "1001 Metal Albums You Must Hear Before You Die" journal just went up today, so yeah, my in-tray is pretty full. But it will return in all its glory, don't you worry.

I have no doubts. You already know how much I loved this thread when it was in full swing. It probably sounds selfish of me to say but it sucks that you had to take a break, but it'll all be worth it once this gets back into the swing of things.

You deserved the break and I do not blame you for taking it.

Also I am looking forward to Metal Month III

Trollheart · 08-11-2015, 02:50 PM

Okay well, let's test the water, shall we?

Title: Poise is the Greater Architect
Artiste: Ilya
Genre: Darkwave?
Familiarity:Zero

1. Isola: There seem to be a few Ilyas out there, so I'm not sure which one this is and I have no real information about them. Sounds like two vocals, the main one definitely female. Something similar to Switchblade Sympony whom I just listened to. Nice chimy guitar, dark synths (I guess; even Discogs don't have this and as for Wiki, don't even go there!) sort of an Indian feel to the end section. Very atmospheric certainly.
2. Rana: Nice piano, the vocal's a bit boring now. Okay just took up a notch with the harmonies. Nice. Like the slightly discordant piano. The sudden buildup near the end is good too.
3. BPD: That was weird! Sudden upbeat jangle pop. Turned out to be an ad in between the YouTube playlist!

Back to dour piano and somewhat whiny singing. Ah, now we're back on track!
4. I want to know: Yeah, this is just getting so depressing. As Monty Burns once said, where's the love? I'm too bored and depressed with this.
5. Blatchford: Sort of a spoken vocal, also quite depressing. Music is not too bad; sounds a little like accordion kind of. Piano is nice and there's a nice kind of breakout there on keys I guess it is. Gets a bit confused and chaotic near the end, then back to that morose voice. I guess it holds my interest but it's very depressing again.
6. Lady Folly: Nice violins, soft sound, male vocals are an interesting change (they're more backing than lead though, that girl is still taking the main vocal duties. I really don't like her voice though I must admit.) Nice guitar, interesting percussion.
7. Nux Vomica: Like the chiming piano on this, actually I think there are two pianos? I think it's the vocals that do me in though: she just sounds like she's sitting in a corner of the room watching the blood from her arteries drip onto the floor. I guess you need to be into this sort of thing. I'm not. Some very nice cello there. Love cellos. Oh but I hate the abrupt ending.
8. In my sleep: Nice relaxed ambient feel to this, and it seems to be very short also. Oh, and it's an instrumental. Definite plus.
9. Disturbed: This has more of a somehow upbeat feel to it. Still don't like her voice, but at least she doesn't seem to be whining as much. Yeah it's all right I guess.
10. Guilty kisses: Oh crap! Eight minutes? Well there's a nice acoustic guitar to open, so that's not too bad, but can I survive four hundred and eighty seconds of this girl's depressing, moaning, tedious voice? At least it's the last track. Okay, I basically lost interest halfway through.

End result: Although I began reviewing this album before “LoveorHateGate”, as it were, and it was in fact the one that decided me on putting this thread on hiatus, and at the time I was pretty depressed over various things with this not helping, I have to admit I'm still quite depressed by the album and while there are some nice melodies in it I don't see it ever being something I would revisit.

So, Love or Hate? It's hard to like an album on which I don't like the singer, and this is the album that sent me into something of a spiral of depression over the whole thread; the straw, as it were, that temporarily broke the Trollheart's back. So I think all in all it has to be a Hate. Sorry bob! Waiting all that time to find out I had such a negative view of it. Still, as they say, it is what it is. No point in pretending I liked it when I didn't. I think you'd prefer honesty anyway, even if it's of the somewhat brutal sort.

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,971	Okay well, let's test the water, shall we? Title: Poise is the Greater Architect Artiste: Ilya Genre: Darkwave? Familiarity:Zero 1. Isola: There seem to be a few Ilyas out there, so I'm not sure which one this is and I have no real information about them. Sounds like two vocals, the main one definitely female. Something similar to Switchblade Sympony whom I just listened to. Nice chimy guitar, dark synths (I guess; even Discogs don't have this and as for Wiki, don't even go there!) sort of an Indian feel to the end section. Very atmospheric certainly. 2. Rana: Nice piano, the vocal's a bit boring now. Okay just took up a notch with the harmonies. Nice. Like the slightly discordant piano. The sudden buildup near the end is good too. 3. BPD: That was weird! Sudden upbeat jangle pop. Turned out to be an ad in between the YouTube playlist! Back to dour piano and somewhat whiny singing. Ah, now we're back on track! 4. I want to know: Yeah, this is just getting so depressing. As Monty Burns once said, where's the love? I'm too bored and depressed with this. 5. Blatchford: Sort of a spoken vocal, also quite depressing. Music is not too bad; sounds a little like accordion kind of. Piano is nice and there's a nice kind of breakout there on keys I guess it is. Gets a bit confused and chaotic near the end, then back to that morose voice. I guess it holds my interest but it's very depressing again. 6. Lady Folly: Nice violins, soft sound, male vocals are an interesting change (they're more backing than lead though, that girl is still taking the main vocal duties. I really don't like her voice though I must admit.) Nice guitar, interesting percussion. 7. Nux Vomica: Like the chiming piano on this, actually I think there are two pianos? I think it's the vocals that do me in though: she just sounds like she's sitting in a corner of the room watching the blood from her arteries drip onto the floor. I guess you need to be into this sort of thing. I'm not. Some very nice cello there. Love cellos. Oh but I hate the abrupt ending. 8. In my sleep: Nice relaxed ambient feel to this, and it seems to be very short also. Oh, and it's an instrumental. Definite plus. 9. Disturbed: This has more of a somehow upbeat feel to it. Still don't like her voice, but at least she doesn't seem to be whining as much. Yeah it's all right I guess. 10. Guilty kisses: Oh crap! Eight minutes? Well there's a nice acoustic guitar to open, so that's not too bad, but can I survive four hundred and eighty seconds of this girl's depressing, moaning, tedious voice? At least it's the last track. Okay, I basically lost interest halfway through. End result: Although I began reviewing this album before “LoveorHateGate”, as it were, and it was in fact the one that decided me on putting this thread on hiatus, and at the time I was pretty depressed over various things with this not helping, I have to admit I'm still quite depressed by the album and while there are some nice melodies in it I don't see it ever being something I would revisit. So, Love or Hate? It's hard to like an album on which I don't like the singer, and this is the album that sent me into something of a spiral of depression over the whole thread; the straw, as it were, that temporarily broke the Trollheart's back. So I think all in all it has to be a Hate. Sorry bob! Waiting all that time to find out I had such a negative view of it. Still, as they say, it is what it is. No point in pretending I liked it when I didn't. I think you'd prefer honesty anyway, even if it's of the somewhat brutal sort. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018