grindy

Checked it out.
Don't like it. (It's not terrible though.)
Not lying.

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Plainview

Well then. I guess it's not a hate?

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grindy

You got me there.
But I almost never hate music, I don't care enough for that.
If I had to listen to a whole album of this I might hate it though.

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Plainview

That is interesting, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (the album it's from) is great from a production aspect, and I think that song is really powerful and atmospheric , as this quote explains nicely: "The piano, the echoing voice in the background, the distortion on his singing, the vocoder solo: every single element of this track is spine-tingling, hauntingly beautiful. Combine that with Pusha’s verse and it becomes Greek tragedy rap: it takes the clichéd ideas of power, sex, money and removes all the glamour from them."

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Frownland

Regardless of how many adjectives Kanye slaps on there or how widely adorned it is, I've always thought that was a really boring record. The only thing I've liked from Kanye is Yeezus, pretty much only because of the gritty production.

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grindy

I can't hear anything special there.
If I heard it on the radio among other contemporary pop it wouldn't stand out in any way to me.
I'm sure it has its merits, it's just not the type of music I can get excited about.

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Plainview

I mean I guess it's still definitely a pop/Hip Hop track, but it de-constructs the norms usual cliché's of popular rap, especially the kind of rapping that Kanye is normally prone to, and shifts it to something darker and more emotional. But I get that not everyone finds the same level of interest in it.

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Brian Bellamy

lol this thread... I'm pretty sure every song ever made has a hater. Just like most artists get hate. Not even Adele is a saint sheep in there I think.

grindy

I have to admit that I've never heard anything else by him.

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grindy

It's still fun to try to find something at least most of us can agree on.
There are tracks that come very close to be universally beloved.

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