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Trollheart 07-14-2015 11:25 AM

Beefheart Week!
 
For those of you who have not read the "What's happening on MB?" thread, we're designating next week as Beefheart Week, and we need reviewers. List of albums below. If you're interested, shout. Ones already claimed are marked as such. We could do with a minimum of four more people, if anyone is interested.

Edit: Albums already reviewed are in Green...

Safe as Milk (1967) Pet_Sounds

Strictly Personal (1968) Oriphiel

Trout Mask Replica (1969) OccultHawk

Lick my Decals off, Baby! (1970) Grindy

Mirror Man (1971) Frownland

The Spotlight Kid (1972) Lisnaholic


Clear Spot (1972) OccultHawk

Unconditionally Guaranteed (1974) Trollheart

Bluejeans and Moonbeams (1974) Trollheart


Bongo Fury (1975) (With Frank Zappa) Grindy

Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller) 1978 Trollheart


Doc at the Radar Station (1980) Frownland

Ice cream for Crow (1982) Plainview

Bat Chain Puller (2012)

Frownland 07-14-2015 11:27 AM

You need to add this
Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart - Bongo Fury

Trollheart 07-14-2015 11:56 AM

Done

grindy 07-14-2015 12:21 PM

I'd do Bongo Fury as well.
I haven't listened to it for years, don't even remember anything about it.

Trollheart 07-15-2015 03:34 AM

Oh come on guys! Over seventy views and three replies, only one of which is neither Frown nor I! I thought you guys loved Beefheart? Nobody else interested? We need a few more reviewers. I'm not even a fan but I'm prepared to give this a go; surely some of you are at least curious as to what Frownland is always banging on about? No?

Plainview 07-15-2015 04:31 AM

Heard a bit of Ice Cream for Crow so I'll give it a shot?

OccultHawk 07-15-2015 04:58 AM

I'd do Clear Spot and Trout Mask Relpica if you're cool.

Pet_Sounds 07-15-2015 06:31 AM

Safe as Milk, please.

Frownland 07-15-2015 06:58 AM

Alright I'll do Doc and TMR if no ones interested in the latter.

EDIT: didn't see your post. Go for it OccultHawk.

Trollheart 07-15-2015 09:02 AM

Cool. Now we're cookin'!

That leaves 5 albums still up for grabs.

OccultHawk 07-15-2015 09:06 AM

So we just post these as we write them up or is there a certain order about this?

Trollheart 07-15-2015 09:16 AM

Pretty much the same as Manowar Week. From Monday next you can post your reviews, thoughts, whatever, all if possible in this thread or if not at least linked to it. Don't post any reviews before Monday though as that will be the official start of Beefheart Week. You can use videos or not in your review as you please, and they can be short or long, it's up to you. Rate or don't rate, again it's up to you.

Frownland 07-15-2015 09:17 AM

Beefheart is timeless and having strict rules would only serve to disrespect him. I say we just post reviews up whenever.

Trollheart 07-15-2015 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615020)
Beefheart is timeless and having strict rules would only serve to disrespect him. I say we just post reviews up whenever.

No. If you want to have a Beefheart week then you need to agree to conform to the rules. If everyone did what they wanted we'd have anarchy. I don't care who you are; the rules must be stuck to, that's the only way to make this work.

Frownland 07-15-2015 11:14 AM

I'm gonna break the rules just to prove some kind of point now. If only you hadn't pressured me.

Trollheart 07-15-2015 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615111)
I'm gonna break the rules just to prove some kind of point now. If only you hadn't pressured me.

All right. Do that and I'll back out in protest. Don't push me...:ar_15s:
Anyway, you're the one applying the pressure. What's the point of starting in the middle of the week?

(Are you just kidding here? There's nothing sorted yet, can't you just wait?)

Frownland 07-15-2015 11:22 AM

I'm actually quite serious.

Trollheart 07-15-2015 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615120)
I'm actually quite serious.

Then so am I. **** Beefheart. Do what you want. I'm out of this.

Frownland 07-15-2015 11:29 AM

:laughing: dude you're so easy. Remember the rule about taking me seriously? I was making a reference to Office Spacegate.

If it were real I'm surprised at how upset it made you. One little rebel and you drop the whole thing? Get a grip dude.

OccultHawk 07-15-2015 11:48 AM

lol

Nobody quit!

Beefheart was actually quite dictatorial concerning his music. He was not in the camp of Ornette. If there are rules to be followed, we should honor them out of respect for Mr. Van Vliet.

grindy 07-15-2015 11:50 AM

If you two don't kiss and make up, I'll come over there and make you.
And you won't like it.
Seriously, this is Beefheart Week, not some chicken**** lounge-thread.
I took time off work for this. I bought a new tie to wear while writing the reviews.

Frownland 07-15-2015 11:54 AM

Everyone's still going with it, don't worry. I'll remember not to make jokes in TH's threads anymore. I guess I'll take Mirror Man as well.

OccultHawk better do a good job with TMR. I might end up adding to your review if I'm not pleased.

Trollheart 07-15-2015 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615129)
:laughing: dude you're so easy. Remember the rule about taking me seriously? I was making a reference to Office Spacegate.

If it were real I'm surprised at how upset it made you. One little rebel and you drop the whole thing? Get a grip dude.

God-****ing-damn you! That's why I asked were you serious? Why can't you answer a simple question, you know, simply? :rolleyes:

Right then: let's go again. How many albums are left? Five?

Oh, four I see. Okay. Getting there.

Frown, you can make jokes: I'm not super serious. But sometimes you just rub me up the wrong way for the sake of it, I know. I did ask and you said you were serious so I got upset. I'm over it now. At least when I'm joking people know, even if my jokes are bad, as they invariably are.

Edit: who's doing the logo for this thing?

Frownland 07-15-2015 12:25 PM

The ambiguity makes it funny for me. It's a very self centered form of humour.

There are four left, I just offered to take Mirror Man.

Trollheart 07-15-2015 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615168)
The ambiguity makes it funny for me. It's a very self centered form of humour.

There are four left, I just offered to take Mirror Man.

kay, well just take into account that your humour is hard for me to pin down, so think about that before making an oblique joke and then rolling your eyes at me because I didn't get it.

OccultHawk 07-15-2015 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615152)
Everyone's still going with it, don't worry. I'll remember not to make jokes in TH's threads anymore. I guess I'll take Mirror Man as well.

OccultHawk better do a good job with TMR. I might end up adding to your review if I'm not pleased.


It takes fortitude to tackle the biggest daddy of them all. I don't want any maggots compromising the foundation.

Oriphiel 07-15-2015 03:03 PM

I'll take Strictly Personal, if it's still open.

Trollheart 07-15-2015 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1615298)
I'll take Strictly Personal, if it's still open.

It is. I'll mark you up. That leaves three to be accounted for, I believe...

Chula Vista 07-15-2015 10:06 PM

Office Spacegate. For the win.

Frownland 07-15-2015 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1615392)
Office Spacegate. For the win.

I want you to listen to (Shiny Beast) Bat Chain Puller.

Also TH needs to change the Bat Chain Puller (1976) date to 2012. Even though it was recorded around that time, there were conflicts in releasing that album and for years there were several different bootlegs floating around. In 2012 Barfko Swill released the official version. It'd help cut down on conflicting track lists if we went with that one.

Trollheart 07-16-2015 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615396)
I want you to listen to (Shiny Beast) Bat Chain Puller.

Also TH needs to change the Bat Chain Puller (1976) date to 2012. Even though it was recorded around that time, there were conflicts in releasing that album and for years there were several different bootlegs floating around. In 2012 Barfko Swill released the official version. It'd help cut down on conflicting track lists if we went with that one.

That's been done. Is Chula taking (SB)BCP?

OccultHawk 07-16-2015 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1615201)
It takes fortitude to tackle the biggest daddy of them all. I don't want any maggots compromising the foundation.

I meant termites. I've never been given this much responsibility.

Frownland 07-16-2015 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1615481)
That's been done. Is Chula taking (SB)BCP?

That's up to him. I was just making a suggestion because I think he'd dig it.

RoxyRollah 07-16-2015 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1614928)
Safe as Milk, please.

$ho'nuff yes I do.

Ftfy.

Trollheart 07-16-2015 01:19 PM

I'd like to make a suggestion here, to ensure everyone gets albums listened to during "their" week. If you review an album by an artiste you're not particularly fond of, but do it anyway, then the person you do it for owes you, ie when it's "your " week they're expected to step up and help you out.

So in other words, let's say Chula does Beefheart but doesn't really want to, when he has his (say) Led Zep week, Frown (as this is basically his week even though I organised it; we all know who's the real Beefheart fan here) is obligated to listen to one, even if he doesn't like Zep. Or Rush. Or whoever.

Nobody HAS to of course; it's more a favour-being-paid-back sort of gentleman's agreement thing. I just think it would help when someone chooses an artiste not too many people are fond of, and not leave them looking for reviewers. They could "call in their markers", so to speak. No?

Frownland 07-16-2015 01:21 PM

I also encourage this idea, but I wouldn't make it mandatory.

I'm kind of already following it by planning on reviewing that Manowar album I haven't done yet. It'll be late but I've made a promise.

I have a few in mind that I'll post up appropriately. Props to Ori and Urban for the good concept.

Trollheart 07-16-2015 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1615605)
I also encourage this idea, but I wouldn't make it mandatory.

I'm kind of already following it by planning on reviewing that Manowar album I haven't done yet. It'll be late but I've made a promise.

I have a few in mind that I'll post up appropriately. Props to Ori and Urban for the good concept.

Oh yeah, I said that: it's not like you have to, but it's just nice if you repay the favour. I'd say most people would be happy to do that, and it might get a better spread of people reviewing who would not normally bother, with half an eye on "well when it's my week I want him/her to help me out so..."

And yes, I second the props. Well done you two. Great idea. Let's hope we can make it a regular thing.

Trollheart 07-17-2015 05:54 AM

Okay, it's Friday and we're left with three. Since Chula has not responded I'm taking it he's not interested, so you're off the hook for his Zep week I guess Frown. I'll take that one if nobody else steps up. Leaves two then, if we can fill them by Sunday.

Reviews can then begin from Monday and will be accepted in the thread, or linked to it, up to midnight Sunday.

Cool with everyone?

Oh, and nobody's done a logo yet so how's this?
http://www.trollheart.com/tmrweek.jpg

Trollheart 07-17-2015 01:43 PM

Again, only a suggestion, but my "Love or Hate?" format for reviewing seems to have become quite popular, and it does make reviewing that bit easier, so if everyone wanted to adopt that for their album(s) it would certainly look tidier and give a better overall picture of what people thought, coupled with eliminating a lot of the actual work of writing an essay. Just an idea; I'm definitely going to go that route myself though.

OccultHawk 07-17-2015 03:06 PM

I have no idea what you're talking about.


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