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DwnWthVwls 07-18-2015 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1616528)
Harlem is in Manhattan.

Yeh I realized that after I posted it. I meant all the nice areas just south of MLK Blvd.

Frownland 07-19-2015 01:03 AM

Everybody please stick to the rules or be punished by way of Trollheart making your computer crash with a tldr dad rant.

My zip code ends in 69 so this sexy song is my choice.


downwardspiral 07-19-2015 01:27 AM

This song perfectly described the city I live in (Liverpool) for me, purely for the lyric "oh, this city's changed so much, since I was a little child."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhWliEQRTFg

I can identify with it on a huge scale because, as I'm sure people who from the UK (and maybe even people outside of it) will know, the city that Liverpool is today certainly isn't the same city it was even 10 years ago. It was deemed derelict, rotten and a complete dystopia worthy of no one's time and according to many it was past the point of no return. Today, it's completely reinvented itself and turned things around. It's still not perfect, we have issues with crime, poverty (moreover, child poverty), are often hit terribly with cuts because the current government hates the North etc, but it's such a beautiful welcoming city with a **** load of culture and heritage and tonnes of lovely things to see and do and is the city with the most grade 1 & 2 listed buildings second only to London. It's beautiful and I'm so very proud to come from here and I am ostensibly proud of Liverpool's success.

This is a nice time lapse of the city I found on youtube but it really only concentrates on bits of the city centre, there are still much nicer parts not included in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwtyg6JQ0Cc

Trollheart 07-19-2015 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1616658)
Everybody please stick to the rules or be punished by way of Trollheart making your computer crash with a tldr dad rant.

My zip code ends in 69 so this sexy song is my choice.


This guy gets it :laughing:
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral (Post 1616678)
This song perfectly described the city I live in (Liverpool) for me, purely for the lyric "oh, this city's changed so much, since I was a little child."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhWliEQRTFg

I can identify with it on a huge scale because, as I'm sure people who from the UK (and maybe even people outside of it) will know, the city that Liverpool is today certainly isn't the same city it was even 10 years ago. It was deemed derelict, rotten and a complete dystopia worthy of no one's time and according to many it was past the point of no return. Today, it's completely reinvented itself and turned things around. It's still not perfect, we have issues with crime, poverty (moreover, child poverty), are often hit terribly with cuts because the current government hates the North etc, but it's such a beautiful welcoming city with a **** load of culture and heritage and tonnes of lovely things to see and do and is the city with the most grade 1 & 2 listed buildings second only to London. It's beautiful and I'm so very proud to come from here and I am ostensibly proud of Liverpool's success.

This is a nice time lapse of the city I found on youtube but it really only concentrates on bits of the city centre, there are still much nicer parts not included in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwtyg6JQ0Cc

So does this guy. :thumb:

Look, sorry all if I came across a little
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but if you create a thread saying "post songs about fruit" and some wiseguy posts one about vegetables, or buildings, or fat women, what's the point? You might as well go back to the "Thread with no subject".

Anyway, wgaf? It's just a thread I thought might be fun. If yaz don't want to play, don't play. Or do. It's up to you. :) But if you do, it would be nice if you did indeed play by the criteria stated in the OP.

Janszoon 07-19-2015 07:03 AM

It's kind of funny that the posts which didn't follow the rules have been the only ones that got responses.

Plankton 07-19-2015 07:15 AM

Rush - Subdivisions reminds me of my city. Especially growing up here in the suburbs. Whats with all the hullabaloo?

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Originally Posted by Rush - Subdivisions (lyrics)
Sprawling on the fringes of the city
In geometric order
An insulated border
In between the bright lights
And the far unlit unknown

Growing up it all seems so one-sided
Opinions all provided
The future pre-decided
Detached and subdivided
In the mass production zone
Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone

[Chorus:]
(Subdivisions)
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out
(Subdivisions)
In the basement bars
In the backs of cars
Be cool or be cast out
Any escape might help to smooth the unattractive truth
But the suburbs have no charms to soothe the restless dreams of youth

Drawn like moths we drift into the city
The timeless old attraction
Cruising for the action
Lit up like a firefly
Just to feel the living night

Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights...


The Batlord 07-19-2015 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1616721)
Whats with all the hullabaloo?

TH is being a thread Nazi.

Plankton 07-19-2015 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1616726)
TH is being a thread Nazi.

I thought I tasted a bit of Himmler.

DwnWthVwls 07-19-2015 07:30 AM

This song represents the Jersey Shore...



and this one represents NJ (w/ pictures for trollheart)


Exo 07-19-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1616490)
In NY city Harlem is just north of Manhattan. That's about as night and day as you can get.

It's really not that bad anymore. Harlem and Washington Heights have had a bad rap since the 80s when half of Manhattan was a crack house. You still shouldn't walk around too late at night but that can be said about most neighborhoods in all five boroughs. The trouble areas now are Bed-Sty/Bushwick in Brooklyn and the entirety of The Bronx. Those are the areas that should take Harlem's bad rap.

Fun fact. You're more likely to get mugged in Times Square than Harlem nowadays.

Janszoon 07-19-2015 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1616769)
It's really not that bad anymore. Harlem and Washington Heights have had a bad rap since the 80s when half of Manhattan was a crack house. You still shouldn't walk around too late at night but that can be said about most neighborhoods in all five boroughs. The trouble areas now are Bed-Sty/Bushwick in Brooklyn and the entirety of The Bronx. Those are the areas that should take Harlem's bad rap.

Fun fact. You're more likely to get mugged in Times Square than Harlem nowadays.

I don't know the Bronx well enough to name neighborhoods, but I've definitely been to parts that weren't bad at all.

Exo 07-19-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1616770)
I don't know the Bronx well enough to name neighborhoods, but I've definitely been to parts that weren't bad at all.

Riverdale is the only place I'd feel comfortable walking around at night. It's just one man's opinion but I take walks across the bridge to Washington Heights all the time at night and never feel like I'm in any danger. I step into The Bronx and the hairs stand up on my neck like some arctic wolf. Bad vibes every time. It's subjective though.

downwardspiral 07-19-2015 09:44 AM

I find that people are very quick to jump to conclusions when it comes to talking about less desirable suburbs. And a lot of the time they've either never visited or have visited but not in a very long time. Places are hardly ever as bad as people say.

DwnWthVwls 07-19-2015 09:47 AM

I'll take your word for it your there a lot more often than I am. I mostly went to Queens and Manhattan for work, idk anything about the Bronx.

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Originally Posted by downwardspiral (Post 1616776)
I find that people are very quick to jump to conclusions when it comes to talking about less desirable suburbs. And a lot of the time they've either never visited or have visited but not in a very long time. Places are hardly ever as bad as people say.

Uhh.. maybe not where you live, but NJ has some seriously dangerous areas. If you don't know where you're going or who you're going to see (especially if your white) you are getting robbed, beat up, or maybe killed.

Black Francis 07-19-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by downwardspiral (Post 1616776)
I find that people are very quick to jump to conclusions when it comes to talking about less desirable suburbs. And a lot of the time they've either never visited or have visited but not in a very long time. Places are hardly ever as bad as people say.

Sometimes they are worse.

Ive visited alot of bad projects to buy stuff and nothing bad has ever happened to me but that doesn't mean the place wasn't dangerous.

Places don't get a bad rep for no reason.

Exo 07-19-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by downwardspiral (Post 1616776)
I find that people are very quick to jump to conclusions when it comes to talking about less desirable suburbs. And a lot of the time they've either never visited or have visited but not in a very long time. Places are hardly ever as bad as people say.

This is how you get mugged.

Plankton 07-19-2015 10:18 AM

"Kids, are you noticing all this plight?"


Key 07-19-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1616717)
It's kind of funny that the posts which didn't follow the rules have been the only ones that got responses.

Like I said in my response to TH, those posts actually make the thread interesting and worthy of discussion.

ladyislingering 07-19-2015 10:55 AM

I figured I may as well post a song that accurately sums up the town I grew up in, with its many soccer moms, townies, drunks, and white picket fence nonsense families.


Janszoon 07-19-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1616803)
Like I said in my response to TH, those posts actually make the thread interesting and worthy of discussion.

I think the posts that are actually what he was looking for are also interesting, but no one replies to them for some reason.

DwnWthVwls 07-19-2015 11:12 AM

I got distracted by the hissy fit.

Exo 07-19-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1616823)
I got distracted by the hissy fit.

Where?

Key 07-19-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1616821)
I think the posts that are actually what he was looking for are also interesting, but no one replies to them for some reason.

They're just not really interesting. Anybody can post a song that has the city they lived in described, but why do that when I could just look up what the city is like through Google. This isn't a national geographic forum, it's a music forum. That's why I chose to post a song that resembles Seattle. Anybody who's anybody will associate Nirvana with Seattle.

Lisnaholic 07-19-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1616821)
I think the posts that are actually what he was looking for are also interesting, but no one replies to them for some reason.

^ That doesn't seem fair, so....

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1616287)


Ween—"Freedom of 76"
My favorite song about Philadelphia. The title, of course, is a reference to Philly's key role in the founding of the United States. The lyrics talk about the Liberty Bell, cheesesteaks, Boyz II Men, Fairmount Park, the movie Mannequin, and South Street (though the ho hired for tricks there seems out of place twenty years and a lot of gentrification later). What I like about this song is what is what I like about Philly: it's cool and low key but doesn't take itself seriously at all and isn't afraid to engage in some self-deprecating humor.

The video, which I didn't even know existed until this morning, adds even more with appearances by Independence Hall, the Philly skyline, the Schuykill River, various neighborhoods, and the Liberty Bell itself. The 1:45 minute intro is a little long but kind of amusing.

Yes, this is a nice, smooth, not-immediately-obvious song. I loved the line about "Mannequin was filmed at Woolworths"!
The only problem is that I now feel obliged to wiki Philadelphia...

Perhaps you rejected this song as being too predictable, but it has some interesting city scenes too:-


Trollheart 07-19-2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1616717)
It's kind of funny that the posts which didn't follow the rules have been the only ones that got responses.

Jeez! Check my sig people! Didn't you learn ANYTHING from Calculon? :laughing:

Seriously, yes, I got distracted giving out to the people who didn't follow the format I wanted and neglected those who did. Your post was very well constructed and thought out Jansz. Now, can you make that weird guy stop pulsing? He's weirding me out. Does he have a name? I'm assuming it's a he...
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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1616721)
Rush - Subdivisions reminds me of my city. Especially growing up here in the suburbs. Whats with all the hullabaloo?

Meh, I'm no longer going to criticise any posts. Except this next one.
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1616726)
TH is being a thread Nazi.

You vill conform!
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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1616729)
I thought I tasted a bit of Himmler.

Which bit? Also, I'm insulted. I build things (mostly threads, journals and drama) --- If I'm to be compared to any Nazi surely it must be Speer?
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1616730)
This song represents the Jersey Shore...



and this one represents NJ (w/ pictures for trollheart)


Thanks for the effort. I know it was ironic and meant to poke fun, but hell, it's a good one.
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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1616785)
Sometimes they are worse.

Ive visited alot of bad projects to buy stuff and nothing bad has ever happened to me but that doesn't mean the place wasn't dangerous.

Places don't get a bad rep for no reason.

Scumbags made a docu about my estate. Bastards. It was very much less than complimentary, and totally one-sided.


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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1616839)
They're just not really interesting. Anybody can post a song that has the city they lived in described, but why do that when I could just look up what the city is like through Google. This isn't a national geographic forum, it's a music forum. That's why I chose to post a song that resembles Seattle. Anybody who's anybody will associate Nirvana with Seattle.

Everything here is interesting. Especially me. I'm the most interesting thing on this forum. Anyone who says otherwise is just plain wrong and you know they are. ;)

Also, may I point out your (very good) "Grandfather paradox" thread? That's not music. Anyway, I made it clear in the OP what I was looking for. I'm not going over all that again. Just leave it as it is. Post what yaz like.

Key 07-19-2015 12:39 PM

^Im just giving you **** for ****s and giggles TH. :P

Black Francis 07-19-2015 12:55 PM

@TH

I was referring to local rep not sensationalist documentary rep.

If the local people tell you to stay away from certain bad areas you best listen to them cause who knows the place better than them? i get some people tend to exaggerate so it all depends on who you listen to but when a bunch of people that live there tell you "You better be careful around here" they must say it for a reason, don't they?

downwardspiral 07-19-2015 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1616785)
Sometimes they are worse.

Ive visited alot of bad projects to buy stuff and nothing bad has ever happened to me but that doesn't mean the place wasn't dangerous.

Places don't get a bad rep for no reason.

They don't, but also having a bad rep doesn't mean a certain area can't grow out of that and change.

downwardspiral 07-19-2015 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1616787)
This is how you get mugged.

Nah, you get mugged by walking around looking like a lamb on its way to a slaughterhouse.

I've walked around the worst areas of my home city, one particular area being the hot spot for gun crime, under cover of darkness, on more than one occasion. Nothing bad has ever happened to me or did I feel particularly on edge or threatened. I'm only speaking of where I'm from but a lot of the crime here is targeted so I don't feel unsafe.

Exo 07-19-2015 01:07 PM

I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying that having the idea that everywhere is most likely safe will cause you to leave your guard down. Crime does happen.

DwnWthVwls 07-19-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by downwardspiral (Post 1616890)
Nah, you get mugged by walking around looking like a lamb on its way to a slaughterhouse.

You need a reality check.

Exo 07-19-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1616899)
You need a reality check.

He's on to something though. There are studies that say if you are in a bad neighborhood and don't live there, act like you do. Eat a bag of chips or talk on the phone. They say you're least likely to get mugged because it may be harder to do so for the criminal if you grew up in the same place they did.

That doesn't mean it won't happen though. Crime happens. You have to be on your guard in bad neighborhoods or even perceived bad neighborhoods. Saying stuff like "it's not so bad" is basically being the lamb in a slaughterhouse.

I basically live in New York City. I've been walking the the streets since I was 13. I know the areas and I know the safe havens. I'm always on my guard because people are crazy and crazy people like night time. Sh*t, last weekend I had a dude clearly on drugs come up to me as I was walking at 10:00 at night in The Village and start hassling me. I know those streets like the back of my hand but this guy thought it was a good idea to get in my face. It can happen any time.

Janszoon 07-19-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1616848)
Yes, this is a nice, smooth, not-immediately-obvious song. I loved the line about "Mannequin was filmed at Woolworths"!
The only problem is that I now feel obliged to wiki Philadelphia...

lol. I'm curious what you learned from Wikipedia.

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1616848)
Perhaps you rejected this song as being too predictable, but it has some interesting city scenes too:-


As much as I like that song, the reason I didn't pick it is that I don't feel like it's really about the city of Philadelphia itself, it's more about the plot of the movie Philadelphia. I think if the movie had been set somewhere else, Springsteen could easily have written the exact same lyrics (minus the name drop of course) about where ever it took place.

I don't think I had ever seen the video before though. It was pretty cool seeing a lot of locations I know.


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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1616229)
After being featured in a 2012 Olympic ceremony, I guess Waterloo Sunset might be the obvious London song. Even if that mini masterpiece is disgarded, it's still pretty difficult to pin London down to just one song, because it get's so many mentions in popular music. Ones that spring to mind are Maybe It's Because I'm a Londoner, Sunny Goodge Street, Finchley Central, the Lambeth Walk, Muswell Hillbillies, Slim Slow Slider and -does any one here remember Vera Lynn?- A Nightingale Sang In Berkeley Square.

I managed to reduce my favourites down to three:-

i) In celebration of the humble multi-ethnic neighbourhoods:-


I've never heard this song before but it makes me want to take another trip to London. If feel like I missed this part of the city when I went there before.

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1616229)
A litany of place names, evocative without being sentimental:-


I've never heard this song or this band before, but I enjoyed how cheery it is. I feel like I should be dancing while listening. I have to admit I can't understand the lyrics well enough to pick up on the references but I can imagine how it could be evocative.

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1616229)
But when you're walking home at three in the morning the London streets take on a gentler quality:-


I could definitely see how this could be one of those bittersweet nostalgic songs for someone who used to live in London. It certainly evokes the empty streets I walked down late at night a few times when I was there.

The Batlord 07-19-2015 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1617141)
I've never heard this song or this band before

Dude, seriously?



Janszoon 07-19-2015 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1617167)
Dude, seriously?



Ah, ok, I didn't make the connection.

Lisnaholic 07-20-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1617141)
lol. I'm curious what you learned from Wikipedia.

^ Well, I learned what Philadelphia means and something about its historical importance, but this was the paragraph that impressed me most:

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The city has more outdoor sculptures and murals than any other American city, and Philadelphia's Fairmount Park is the largest landscaped urban park in the world. Philadelphia is the birthplace of the United States Marine Corps, and is also the home of many US firsts, including the first library, first hospital, first Capitol, first stock Exchange, first zoo and first business school.
Every big city should have a river or a coastline, so Philly scores well there, and it has some nice buildings too, like the Georgian row houses and the blue roof of the City Hall. Didn't like the mirrored monolith of the Cira Centre so much; what's the word on the street about that?

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I have to admit I can't understand the lyrics well enough to pick up on the references but I can imagine how it could be evocative.
^ I should think that the quickest way to work out the lyrics is to sit down with a London tube map and tick off all the station names as you hear them!
How long did you stay in London, Jans ? Were you just in the centre?

Chula Vista 07-20-2015 12:13 PM

Chula Vista is just south of San Diego and pretty much hugs the Mexican border. People are so chill it's ridiculous.

This works.


downwardspiral 07-20-2015 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1616899)
You need a reality check.

I don't? What's so hard to grasp? If you walk around looking like an easy target, you will become a target. It's common sense, pal.

DwnWthVwls 07-20-2015 01:52 PM

I don't expect you to understand, you've no idea what an American ghetto is like. Not saying it's the worst place in the world but if you think you can just come here and pretend to fit in than you're sadly mistaken. Like Exo said there is merit to your argument but you would stick out like a sore thumb no matter how tough or regular you pretended to be. These fucking people call cab drivers just to kill them during gang initiation month, and you think you're gonna walk around and look like you belong there? Do you know what colors are safe to wear in which areas?

Just because they choose to live wild, violent lives doesn't mean there isn't order to the chaos. You have no idea who controls what territory, what the signs mean, etc. You get caught buying from a guy or even talking to the wrong person in the wrong place and you can end up dead. We are talking about areas where the cashiers at gas stations and convience stores are behind bulletproof glass. Stop being so naive.

downwardspiral 07-20-2015 01:59 PM

I'm not referring to an American ghetto though, I think what I said extends further and is more general and certain places are an exception and regardless of how you look you'll be targeted. You're just talking about one place. I think what I said is just the case wherever you go. If you look like an easy pick then you're gonna get picked, end of story.


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