Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1667190)

Oragne Goblin is more or less considered Stoner Rock. Well someone who was in Stoner Rock band (I forget who) said it was an insult to be called Heavy Metal. Not even Sam Dunn has a place for "Stoner Rock" on his chart, however he did bother to include Punk and Grunge.:confused: The thing with Heavy Metal fans (probably starting with Sam Dunn) is that everything is re-evaluate towards it's relationship to Heavy Metal. (There are a few examples I won't go into) anyways there are things that weren't considered Metal now are. Oragne Goblin on a whole different level than Kiss, Glam Metal, or Metallica. I don't see them as spandex Heavy Metal.

I know some people who wouldn't consider anything before NWOBHM as Metal. Sam Dunn (in his Rockumentary) is careful to call Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple Heavy Music, not Heavy Metal. Anyway Stoner Rock draws more from late 60s and early 70s Acid Rock and Hard Rock bands. So a band playing Stoner-Rock-type music before NWOBHM is not Metal but a Stoner band after NWOBHM Is Metal?