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JGuy Grungeman 01-05-2016 08:48 PM

Well, based on what I like on power pop, can I make an acoustic suggestion? Wanna Make it a Day by Robin Famewolf.

Pet_Sounds 01-05-2016 08:54 PM

I'm going to take this thread in a couple different directions. First, I'm going to give Brian Wilson credit as one of the genre's initiators. After all, he came up with the idea of putting together doo-wop harmonies and Chuck Berry rock 'n' roll. Pete Townshend of the Who (who coined the term "power pop") mentioned this song in particular as an early example.



I'm also going to probably offend a lot of diehard Police fans by calling them power pop. But when you look at all the melodic hooks… "Roxanne," "Can't Stand Losing You," "Message in a Bottle," etc. Those are basically great pop songs dressed up with some reggae/punk/new wave instrumentation.

And if we really stretch our definition of power pop, wouldn't pretty much any '70s punk band be considered power pop? You've got the simple chords and the catchy hooks played much louder.

The Batlord 01-05-2016 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1666980)
And if we really stretch our definition of power pop, wouldn't pretty much any '70s punk band be considered power pop? You've got the simple chords and the catchy hooks played much louder.

If punk had never become a thing then they probably would be considered power pop. I certainly don't see why you couldn't call Buzzcocks or the Ramones power pop bands.

Norg 01-05-2016 09:01 PM

Deadsy isn't NU metal they ARE POWERPOP !!!!!!!!!!

Pet_Sounds 01-05-2016 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1666986)
If punk had never become a thing then they probably would be considered power pop. I certainly don't see why you couldn't call Buzzcocks or the Ramones power pop bands.

I was especially thinking of the Ramones and some of their covers. Even the Clash. I can imagine a '60s girl group doing "Should I Stay Or Should I Go."

The Batlord 01-05-2016 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1666992)
I was especially thinking of the Ramones and some of their covers. Even the Clash. I can imagine a '60s girl group doing "Should I Stay Or Should I Go."

Later, yeah, but at the beginning I'd say the Clash were more pure R&B, early-Stones-worship than actual pop.

Basil C. Thurston III 01-05-2016 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1666922)
Power pop need not have any kind of restrictive sound. It's just pop that's louder than the Beatles. These qualify...

Some of In Flames' music is just as good as anything Big Star ever put out. .

if you're going to utilize genre titles, or characterize certain sounds, then, yes, you have to be restrictive in sound. Otherwise, using your definition of "pop that's louder than the Beatles", New Kids On The Block is power pop. Everclear is power pop. Alejandro Escovido is power pop. Nope.

As for In Flames, I must have missed their climb to legendary status, the adoration of their song-writing by two generations of artists, and the avid, almost hero-worship following of their fans. But I compliment you for being outrageous.

The Batlord 01-05-2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Basil C. Thurston III (Post 1667007)
if you're going to utilize genre titles, or characterize certain sounds, then, yes, you have to be restrictive in sound. Otherwise, using your definition of "pop that's louder than the Beatles", New Kids On The Block is power pop. Everclear is power pop. Alejandro Escovido is power pop. Nope.

Except that power pop is at the very least a rock genre, so NKOTB obviously wouldn't qualify, but if you wanted to claim that that was just being arbitrary, there's definitely some clubbier dance pop I get much the same thing I get from power pop.

And I honestly can't think of a single Everclear song, and don't even know who Alejandro Escovido is, so I couldn't tell you.

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As for In Flames, I must have missed their climb to legendary status, the adoration of their song-writing by two generations of artists, and the avid, almost hero-worship following of their fans. But I compliment you for being outrageous.
And In Flames have sold more albums than Big Star ever did. What's your point? Music is now objective?

Neapolitan 01-05-2016 10:29 PM

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If punk had never become a thing then they probably would be considered power pop. I certainly don't see why you couldn't call Buzzcocks or the Ramones power pop bands.

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The Ramones are not Power Pop. Why? Cause they have a different approach and sound. Power Pop bands like Badfinger, Raspberries and Big Star used Power chords and they let them ring out. Johnny Ramone played fast with all downstrokes. He was formerly a bass player, and took the technique he used on bass and applied it to guitar.

The Batlord 01-05-2016 10:33 PM

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The Ramones are not Power Pop. Why? Cause they have a different approach and sound. Power Pop bands like Badfinger, Raspberries and Big Star used Power chords and they let them ring out. Johnny Ramone played fast with all downstrokes. He was formerly a bass player, and took the technique he used on bass and applied it to guitar.

And Anthrax aren't a thrash band cause they don't sound exactly like Slayer.


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