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Old 01-06-2016, 06:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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And New Kids sold more albums than In Flames ever will. Point?
My point was that your point was pointless. Just because Big Star has a Big Following does not mean that In Flames can't have music as good or better than them. You just made the same point I did, so obviously we agree.

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Yes, yes, yes, spot on.



They are a thrash band because they play thrash, not because they sound like anything else, thrash or otherwise. That's the point, exactly.
I think the Ramones sound more like Big Star than Anthrax does Slayer. And yet one can be lumped in with the other without a second thought, while you fight tooth and nail to separate two bands that play relatively similar styles of music?

Sounds to me like you're buying into arbitrary genre labels. So far as I know, power pop was never a scene or movement. It was just a few bands that happened to have similar influences but without much other connection. At least Anthrax and Slayer were actually part of a movement. I honestly don't see why a genre label like power pop should be restrictive when it's not even really describing an actual genre in the first place.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:37 PM   #32 (permalink)
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If you apply Power Pop to anything and everything you feel like, then that's when it becomes arbitrary.

I don't think Basil was "fighting tooth and nail," and to assert that is poisoning the well.
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Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

"it counts in our hearts" ?ºº?
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It kind of is already an arbitrary genre label.
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Old 01-06-2016, 08:59 PM   #34 (permalink)
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How about calling bands like Killswitch Enrage and Hammers Fall "Fabulous Metal"?
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:10 PM   #35 (permalink)
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How about calling you "Alice"? Cause you're a girl.
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How about calling you "Alice"? Cause you're a girl.
Alice?

This is somewhere between Power Pop and a Fabulous Metal ballad.
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NAZARETH " Hair Of The Dog " 1975

Another fine blend of Power Pop and Fabulous Metal.
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I'm in the camp of people that always considered power pop a wide umbrella of stuff influenced by bands like The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Big Star, ELO, etc. There's a spectrum to it, but while you had The Police, Yes, The Outfield and Huey Lewis & The News in the 80's, Jellyfish were considered the premiere power pop group of the 90's. A lot of those influences have bled into the alternative rock & progressive rock world over time too, especially in recent years.





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