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Option A is more of a turnoff to me I guess. Not that there isn't some music I like that's a little cliched or sentimental, but overall, though I may not always be in the mood for an Albert Ayler or a Throbbing Gristle, the Whitney Houstons and Tim McGraws of the world consistently make me want to punch something.
Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel too. Certainly there are days where I don't have the energy to listen to something really challenging, but I do whenever I'm in the mood.
Towards the "a)"-stuff, there are some clichés I find more tolerable than others, I can even enjoy some of it at times, but I would definitely say that, for me personally, both Pop balladry and a good chunk of certain Metal sub-genres are among the worst offenders in this category, though a lot of modern "indie" is guilty as well.
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As much as I hate the lack of musical notes being employed in modern pop music. I still have to go with option A over option B
I like my music to have melody even if it's cliche sounding revival genres. You can go a long ways with simple sentimental, or melancholy sounding tracks. Oasis was a good example of this. They were average and ordinary, almost banal, but they knew how to make good use of sad sounding melodies.
As for the dissonant, I can listen to Skinny Puppy on a good day, but I'll take a pass on mathcore, and most progressive rock.
Thanks for your perspective. It's interesting to hear from the other point of view as well. (Oh, and btw I'm not saying that sentimentality, or at least a strong presence of sentiment necessarily denotes cliché.)
Just curious, how do you feel about something like this, for instance?:
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a) Banality, contrivance, cliché or sentimentality (etc.)
b) Abstraction, dissonance, "cacophony" or abrasiveness (etc.)
Man, I don't ****in' know. At the very least I am not at all turned off by a) whereas I am often repelled by b), but I guess b) makes up most of the music I listen to, so... I don't ****in' know, man.
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Not even that fucking song from Titanic?
That song has about twenty seconds in total of being mildly entertaining, but the rest of it falls short of all of those categories since "boring" wasn't included in the OP.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
That song has about twenty seconds in total of being mildly entertaining, but the rest of it falls short of all of those categories since "boring" wasn't included in the OP.
I think it fits squarely under the category of "banal".
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But it doesn't suck cause it's unoriginal, it sucks cause it's just dull. There's no particular way to describe its dullness other than just being dull.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
That song has about twenty seconds in total of being mildly entertaining, but the rest of it falls short of all of those categories since "boring" wasn't included in the OP.
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But it doesn't suck cause it's unoriginal, it sucks cause it's just dull. There's no particular way to describe its dullness other than just being dull.
fyi there is an "etc." in parentheses in the poll options, so that could fit under there, but words like "boring" or "dull" can go both ways, (or potentially apply to both a and b) depending on your subjective taste, so that's why I din't include them. Giving an answer to the poll would be more about for what reason you think it's "dull" or something like that. I would be bored by "My heart will go on" for the reasons listed under a) (or associated terms), which in turn edges me towards giving the first answer to the poll.
So it really comes down to whether you dislike it for those kind of reasons or different reasons altogether. If the former is the case, it would depend what puts you off the most between something like the Titanic song and for example the Penderecki piece I posted on the previous page.
But it doesn't suck cause it's unoriginal, it sucks cause it's just dull. There's no particular way to describe its dullness other than just being dull.
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It's dull because of how unoriginal it is.
But even the original would have been dull.
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