Chula Vista

There's tons of classical that is heavier than ****. Just because you don't have a D-tuned guitar, a distortion pedal, and a 100 watt Marshall cranked on 10 doesn't mean you can't play metal.

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You know a part of you really wished you were 14 in 1974.

You mean if there's hair on the pussy or not?

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Frownland

Drop D=metal would be such a sad philosophy that I don't even want to consider it.

I put Handel because I think he's the single greatest influence on traditional heavy metal there is.

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Chula Vista

So why do so many guitarists use drop D in order to sound heavier? Because it works. Nothing like being able to play root I-V-VIII chords with the added lower octave V note.

I just just playing a 7 string with the lower B. An open D chord sounds absolutely HUGE being able to add the lower D note on the 3rd fret of the low B string.

It's funny when you listen to the ending of a majority of classical pieces and realize that almost all heavy metal songs end in the exact same fashion.

Wagner and Beethoven are up there with Handel when it comes to heaviness.

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Frownland

lol bit circular here innit

My point was that drop d, while used by a lot of metal guitarists, is by no means a defining trait of the genre.

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Chula Vista

Not what I was getting act. But it sure makes it easier to sound heavy as **** when playing metal rhythm chords.

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Frownland

I think it's because it makes it way easier to do the already easy power chord.

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Chula Vista

Tony Iommi agrees with you.

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Mondo Bungle

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Lisnaholic

Before dipping into a contest about which band is more versatile, I'd like to take a moment to ask, "How commendable is it to be versatile?" The word makes me think of some lounge band, where the audience can ask, Can you play us this? Can you play us that? And I'm sure that in terms of ability to play something, it's a real achievement to be more versatile than the next guy, as it demonstrates a more extensive technical ability.

But when it comes to major creative artists , it's often their consistancy that I admire. I like it when artists find their "voice" and explore it thoroughly, in album after album, if they can keep it interesting. Some artists that come to mind are Nick Drake, Can and the Allman Bros.

For me, versatility often works against an artist; Zappa got distracted from jazz-rock fusion because he could also do pop/doo-wop pastiches. Beefheart could also have done without that display of versatility, Bluejeans and Moonbeams, imo. And Queen were so good at playing around with different genres that for me, it starts to feel directionless, insincere, or superficial, like tourism.

Having said that, some versatility sounds more genuine, or more like an organic development of an artist, and my candidate for that would be Dylan. Without compromising his trademark voice, he has explored folk, rock, Americana and Tin Pan Alley. (At a stretch, on the way, he also stopped off at rap before it was invented, with Subterranean Homesick Blues) But he moved through these styles slowly across the years, the way most people's interests will naturally shift from one thing to another.

(Yes, Janszoon, I know Dylan is not a band, and I don't think Nick Drake is either.)

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Psy-Fi

The Mothers of Invention were the first band I thought of but, after some more thought, I should probably mention XTC as well.

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