1983-2000 Vs 2000-2017

The Batlord · 06-06-2017, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

I was just joking. I'm the opposite of a party animal. That said, when I do karaoke, I've noticed people get up and dance to songs that on any other day they will tell you they hate. Every time I karaoke with my uncle he always performs Danzig's Mother despite him hating the song.

I think party situations offer up more of a mob mentality towards music.

Your uncle is a ***got. "Mother" rules.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

right exactly it is a relatively modern corruption of the ideology to turn it into advocating the worst kind of tyranny, that being private tyranny

But you don't seem to have the hatred for all things hierarchical that I do. Isn't the deconstruction of all or at least almost all hierarchies a fundamental principle? Not that my politics are well expressed here but I feel like that's at the core of my beliefs.

Mondo Bungle · 06-06-2017, 07:03 PM

there was different music then and now so it's hard to say

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Ohmy****. Shut up and talk about music you whores.

Capitalism, post-capitalism, or the failure to reach post-capitalism, is according to Fisher, one of the most important realities we have to face in order to understand where music is at and why it is where it is.

Mondo Bungle · 06-06-2017, 07:09 PM

where is it

**Frownland** · 06-06-2017, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Capitalism, post-capitalism, or the failure to reach post-capitalism, is according to Fisher, one of the most important realities we have to face in order to understand where music is at and why it is where it is.

Maybe he could've afforded a boat to fish with using the money he spent trying to float on that idea.

It's certainly relevant but I wouldn't say that it's central. Plus, that wasn't exactly being applied here.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

there was different music then and now so it's hard to say

Come on. If time wasn't chronological we couldn't have this discussion. The point is why and how it's different (and the same).

Contrast the music and the philosophies of the artists. Certainly your boy Patton fits into all of this. He's almost a textbook case. Extrapolate on him. Is his only newness the novelty of collaging the old?

Mondo Bungle · 06-06-2017, 07:17 PM

I dunno, if you ask me he's been releasing a hugely varied body of albums/projects over the course of both periods

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

where is it

Well I'm cautiously making the case that it has reached a point where it has become passé and maybe unnecessary to challenge the status quo.

The Batlord · 06-06-2017, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

if you're talking about religion here

I share your hatred for Organized Religion, The Church, where it has power

but the religions themselves are all actually born out of rebellion against a hierarchy for example Christianity in response to the Roman Empire

Beyond Christianity and I guess Islam, what other religions is this true for? Are you speaking specifically of organized religion or religious belief in general?