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I should probably clarify what I meant when I said "Careful"


Nothing Chula said was wrong. The mainstream rock acts that took the Beatles in as an influence eventually lead to us having extreme metal acts from all over the world. That claim however can get misconstrued though as making the Beatles out to be huge influencers on the metal world (which is simply not the case).

I think though that I am talking in the wrong thread. Its not about the significance of the album, but rather the appeal of the music, which varies from person to person. You cannot disagree with facts.

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Frownland

Ja he's correct that a very popular band during the foundational period of rock is a very big contributor to the foundation of rock. It's also an obtuse statement since indirect influence gets incredibly murky real quick.

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That's what I was attempting to get at (didn't do a good job of it though).

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Chula Vista

See, this is when you piss me off. You're basically calling me stupid. Do you do it on purpose?

Members of the holy trinity of the beginnings of heavy metal as a hugely popular and influencial musical form and genre (Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and Deep Purple) are all on record about the influence The Beatles had on them. Without those three bands there's no NWOBHM. Without that there's..... the point should be clear by now.

Listen to The Rain Song by Zeppelin. Page purposely used the first three chords of Something by the Beatles as a nod to George Harrison after they'd partied all night in LA.

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Frownland

It does not mean that you're stupid. It means that your statement isn't observant of the bigger picture and ignores quite a bit. I was actually trying to phrase it constructively, shucks.

Also if you look at the rest of that post, it's the same point that you just made. I get it and conditionally agree. Cool?

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Frownland

Actually I kind of wonder what the timeline would be like without NWOBM. I could see screaming combined with fast and aggressive music naturally developing on its own kind of timeline, even though it might be entirely alien to our concept of extreme metal.

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Not metal, metal, not metal. Just fyi...

No one is calling you stupid. Just that your claim was hinting at something that could be argued as false.

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Chula Vista

Ja, Burzum would have happened even if Judas Priest and Iron Maiden never existed.

Obviously I'm skipping a few links in the chain. A lot of what I type is obtuse afterall.



(in hindsight, a lot of what Varg was doing was rooted in some of the Edge's drone ideas. Fancy that.)

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Chula Vista

Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and Deep Purple.

Not the roots of metal?

I honestly don't know how to respond.

Well, I'll try....

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Oriphiel

Honestly, Blue Cheer deserves to be in there more than Deep Purple.

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