What's the huge appeal of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band?

Spectralmusic · 06-13-2017, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

So in other words, I'm responding to a hell of a lot of strawman arguments.

If you are referring to me, I'm not arguing but I think I got a bit sidetracked though

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spectralmusic

If you are referring to me, I'm not arguing but I think I got a bit sidetracked though

Strawman argument doesnt mean that you're arguing like a fight. It can be and is used in civil debates (despite being fallacial).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Spectralmusic · 06-13-2017, 06:53 AM

To put my intention as clear as possible, I am only throwing together my thoughts together on this:

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Originally Posted by RJDG14

Sorry if I sound like I'm being my usual critical self, but something I really want to know is why many regard The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as one of the best albums of all time, because I gave it a listen and didn't like any of the songs on it

.......and also try and justify the reason why it was so popular, when I regard it as one of my least favourite popular albums of that era.

in the discussion.

Now I relate somewhat to some of his comments on it, though I still like "Within you, Without you" and "A day in the life" reasonably much.

Now, when there is immense popularity, cultural recognition and/or seemingly universal influence being thrown around behind the claims we've talked so much about, I will quite obviously want to investigate.

I don't seem to have succeeded but I have tried to be as clear and eloquent as possible in my discussion on this topic. Again, my side of the conversation hasn't been against them (even the cynical hyperbole I started off with), but I can't just take something (even that I cherish) at face value because life is far more complicated than that.

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spectralmusic

To put my intention as clear as possible, I am only throwing together my thoughts together on this:

in the discussion.

Now I relate somewhat to some of his comments on it, though I still like "Within you, Without you" and "A day in the life" reasonably much.

Now, when there is immense popularity, cultural recognition and/or seemingly universal influence being thrown around behind the claims we've talked so much about, I will quite obviously want to investigate.

I don't seem to have succeeded but I have tried to be as clear and eloquent as possible in my discussion on this topic. Again, my side of the conversation hasn't been against them (even the cynical hyperbole I started off with), but I can't just take something (even that I cherish) at face value because life is far more complicated than that.

I think the best way to chart influence is by looking to how many people note them as an influence, and with The Beatles its pretty common for rock musicians to cite them. There's the direct evolution of sound, which gets a little trickier, to the point where I don't think I agree that it can be objectively established. Rubber Soul and Revolver were primers, Sgt. Peppers was a dive into psychedelic music. I refer back to one of the earliest points I made here: I think that album helped spark the psychedelic movement in more far reaching ways than any group had done before them. And don't say Jimi Hendrix because he only had a two week head start on that album.

Neapolitan · 06-13-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I think the best way to chart influence is by looking to how many people note them as an influence, and with The Beatles its pretty common for rock musicians to cite them. There's the direct evolution of sound, which gets a little trickier, to the point where I don't think I agree that it can be objectively established. Rubber Soul and Revolver were primers, Sgt. Peppers was a dive into psychedelic music. I refer back to one of the earliest points I made here: I think that album helped spark the psychedelic movement in more far reaching ways than any group had done before them. And don't say Jimi Hendrix because he only had a two week head start on that album.

Jimi Hendrix.

I couldn't resist.

grindy · 06-14-2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

The Beatle's historical musical signifigance diluted down to "fanboys"..................

I'm going to bed shaking my head violently. George Martin is rolling in his grave. I guess Varg and Van Vliet really don't give a **** though.
Please.

Still waiting for that burzumesque track you promised us btw.

Key · 06-14-2017, 02:14 PM

You guys overanalyze every ****ing thing. The album is good. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. It's really really simple.

Trollheart · 06-14-2017, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

You guys overanalyze every ****ing thing. The album is good. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. It's really really simple.

... and he's back!

Zero to grumpy in 0.12 seconds.

**Frownland** · 06-14-2017, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

You guys overanalyze every ****ing thing. The album is good. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. It's really really simple.

Why would someone like it or not like it specifically and how does their socioeconomic situation reflect that?

Key · 06-14-2017, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

... and he's back!

Zero to grumpy in 0.12 seconds.

I aim to please.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Why would someone like it or not like it specifically and how does their socioeconomic situation reflect that?

How about you take that didgeridoo and shove it where the sun don't shine.

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Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	You guys overanalyze every ****ing thing. The album is good. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. It's really really simple.