Emo can suck my dick.

emo (skramz and fake emo indie **** included) is arguebly my favourite genre. top 3 for sure.

And you think that trait is boring!!!!?? Take advantage of emo, it's asking for it.

Oh god! Not At the ****ing Drive In, please! :yikes:

I don't even really care about ATDI, but at most they are kinda dull, not offensive.

wtf is wrong with you arcarsenal is one of the most most amazing songs ever written you should be ashamed of yourself and mannequin republic is amazing tooo uihgf auishuihf ashfafsojiasfasfasoafsojiafsofaisaofjis

What a dumb question and an easy answer. Trance.

Bollocks. Goa trance is pretty awesome.

Boring doesn't mean bad right

Do you consider them boring?

Nope, that depends on the artist.
You can list genres here you like so little they're boring to you, but also genres that just are pretty damn unexciting even if they can be well done and enjoyable in the right mood.

This is my favorite record, fuck you Troll.

It's the ****ing best.

Too bad post-hardcore got ruined by modern metalcore, noodly indie/math/emo guitars and all aggression being left to screamo bands. It's odd how the most influential post hc bands all have a hardcore punk sound yet what I get when I look up more is usually indie bull**** or scene kid poppy metalcore. Why that direction, Ian. Why Ian.

I certainly have no interest in them.
Why the **** would I care about that? I could show you my favourite record and you would think it was boring. Grow the **** up pal.

So do you think a genre can be bad without being boring? Just asking since that term really doesn't apply to emo music at all because of how much variety there is to the genre, even if I'm not a fan of a lot of it.

Yes. If it's supposed to be rather exciting but poorly written and or executed, then sure. It might also be very interesting in complex writing and technique that keeps it from being boring, but it's not a very good piece anyways.

Calm down sweetheart, take a joke.

I guess it's possible, but for me music being boring is general what makes it bad.

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I think a genre can be bad but at least stand out in some way. Take crunkcore for example. For me boring music is music which is so inoffensive and so bland that it fades into the background.

As somebody who rarely listens to reggae, classical, country, metal and a few others it would be quite easy to say they are the most boring. So I will.

I wonder what percentage of western music that covers.

Reggae is great.

Dub too.

eh I mean I can see why people would call ambient or drone or minimalism etc "boring", but those are among my favorite genres. music with a slow burn

Reggae = Groovy, smoke a joint and think about peace or politics
Classical = If it's the 20th century, you'll never fall asleep to a lot of the heavy-weight composers, you'll be bombarded with more badassery than you can shake a stick at
Country = Depends but if it's dark, it's probably going to be compelling
Metal = This one's got to be a joke :wavey:

Of course not. I try my best to listen to music that I want to listen to, and have spent a lot of time trying to up my game when it comes to metal, reggae and country. I think Classical music is the only genre that I would admit to not even making any attempt to check out the "good stuff".

Obviously things change and maybe some day I will not hold that opinion, but they are definitely the most boring to me.

Edit: I forgot ambient. Fuck ambient.

Reggae's a great choice because it has amazingly little variety across artists in the genre.

I've never really been able to get into reggae either. It's fine sometimes, but nothing's ever stuck out to me whenever I've given it a shot. It's definitely a genre that's boring as **** at times.

And I'd stick up for ambient, as I've been slowly getting into it for a little while, but at this point I'd have nothing to say beyond, "Hey, I think it's pretty c00l, bro."

Indie... I'm yet to come across anything in the genre that I really enjoy. Most of it is just boreing even safer alt rock.

The Microphones, Low, Sonic Youth, and Modest Mouse are some pretty good ones, but overall indie is too empty of a term for this thread imo. I suppose you could make the case that artists who self-identify as indie music typically make the weakest music that the "genre" has to offer.

I also think that ambient and drone are easy answers for those who don't know much about either genre because they certainly open themselves up to being incredibly boring. The best of those genres take that platform to make something interesting, which is what brings them to that status.

I'm more talking about artists like Neutral Milk Hotel and Arcade Fire. The guys you named I'd see more as alt rock groups that were instrumental in what I see as indie.

You're kind of validating my point of how pointless both indie and alternative are as genre labels.

They are extremely pointless. That's why people kind of have to come up with their own definitions.

I suppose that's one way to look at it. The way I define them, they don't have any kind of inherent sound.

Indie - music from an independent label
Alternative - music that's radio-friendly and ashamed about it

"Indie" is a useful term because it immediately brings to mind a certain sound stereotype that even casual music nerds can easily recognize. Whether or not it's a useful genre descriptor is kind of beside the point. It's not like anyone gives a legitimate **** about it as a positive label anymore.

I guess this is true for me, because when someone uses the term indie as such, it sounds like they have an ignorant view of music.

As far as I'm concerned it's all alternative, alternative being the rock movement beginning with bands like VU, Monks, the Stooges, etc, and running parallel but self-consciously different to mainstream rock, continuing through 70s art rock and proto-punk, at least the early punk bands (e.g. first wave London and CBGB's bands), then on through post-punk, college rock, grunge (and post-grunge if you're being generous I guess), etc, etc, etc. My own personal definition of alternative isn't a genre either, just the artier, outsider movement(s) that have been historically connected by direct influence.

Indie to me has lost its original meaning and just became, as you said, a word to describe the sound of Andrew Bird, Grizzly Bear, The Shins, and Leslie Feist having an orgy.