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Old 06-30-2017, 06:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't care about older vs newer production, I care about: dynamic production vs loudness wars
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Old 06-30-2017, 06:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The loudness war was goddamned necessary after so many albums got released that were too quiet to blast.

Pretty much all early Bolt Thrower albums have this problem.

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Old 06-30-2017, 08:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Pretty much all early Bolt Thrower albums have this problem.
Now that I agree with.
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Old 06-30-2017, 11:49 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Semi related to the op

It seems like digital remasters are always worse

Like I think the guitar is louder on the ramones remasters

I can't remember what it was but I was listening to another remaster and the guitar was softer and the vocals louder - some metal - it may have been Sabbath

Remember that thread the rolling stone top 50 metal yeah that was it

I started going through the Sabbath and it doesn't sound "cleaned up" compared to my vinyl it sounds remixed

Like why would they think the original mix was wrong?

Am I right or just making **** up?
You're not making **** up at all. Bad remastered versions of albums are the most common forms of remasters.
It's usually just more compression, less reverb, louder drums and vocals. Take something good and remove all finesse.
Totally a good idea.

I seriously can't name one single remaster I've heard that was clearly better than the original. I'm sure it exists somewhere.

There are albums I'd like remastered, but most good albums wont be improved by your usual remastering approach.
I've got a feeling that it might be a rock/pop/metal problem more than anything...

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I don't care about older vs newer production, I care about: dynamic production vs loudness wars
Mostly agreed. There are a few annoying trends that need to die, especially in metal production.
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Old 07-01-2017, 02:20 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I don't care about older vs newer production, I care about: dynamic production vs loudness wars
Honestly that more specific conversation has been done to death in comparison, which is why I made the thread title more broad.
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Old 07-01-2017, 09:37 AM   #16 (permalink)
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You're not making **** up at all. Bad remastered versions of albums are the most common forms of remasters.
Remember when CDs first came out? The vast majority of them sounded terrible. In most cases the record companies didn't have access to the master tapes, but wanted to rush and get something on the shelves to keep up with the competition.

The convenience and WOW factor was so damn cool, a lot of people weren't paying attention to the sound quality cause, like, "It's digital man!".
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We should start a new trend for collecting ****ty 1st gen CDs.
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Remember when CDs first came out? The vast majority of them sounded terrible. In most cases the record companies didn't have access to the master tapes, but wanted to rush and get something on the shelves to keep up with the competition.

The convenience and WOW factor was so damn cool, a lot of people weren't paying attention to the sound quality cause, like, "It's digital man!".
This has got to be where a lot of the myths about the superior sound quality of vinyl comes from. "It sounds warmer!"... no it doesn't... Anything a vinyl can do, CD can do too. It probably made sense back when the first batches of CD's came out, but it's an idea that's stuck around far past it's expiration date.

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Old 07-01-2017, 11:05 AM   #20 (permalink)
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This has got to be where a lot of the myths about the superior sound quality of vinyl comes from. "It sounds warmer!"... no it doesn't... Anything a vinyl can do, CD can do too. It probably made sense back when the first batches of CD's came out, but it's an idea that's stuck around far past it's expiration date.
Yeah isn't the presence of distortion in vinyl actually evidence that CDs are superior?
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