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Old 07-13-2017, 12:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Allahu akbar, I guess.
I didn't even like Lil Yachty the first time I listened to him. At all. Give it time. Then come back. You might be surprised. He's kind of a masterful pop songwriter, even if his lyrics are hilariously terrible.
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I didn't even like Lil Yachty the first time I listened to him. At all. Give it time. Then come back. You might be surprised. He's kind of a masterful pop songwriter, even if his lyrics are hilariously terrible.
I can enjoy this one. A bit heavy on the auto-tune, but it still works.

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I can enjoy this one. A bit heavy on the auto-tune, but it still works.

Saying that Lil Yachty is "heavy on the autotune" is missing the point. He knows he's got little without the autotune. He's not even a rapper. He's a pop artist without a voice, but who can use autotune to make up the difference. To listen to Lil Yachty you have to learn to hear what might be appealing about a voice with large amounts of autotune.

That song is phat though.
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Saying that Lil Yachty is "heavy on the autotune" is missing the point. He knows he's got little without the autotune. He's not even a rapper. He's a pop artist without a voice, but who can use autotune to make up the difference. To listen to Lil Yachty you have to learn to hear what might be appealing about a voice with large amounts of autotune.

That song is phat though.
And that's challenging to me, since I've always hated auto-tune. For so long, it was almost purely used to fix bad singing, so trying to appreciate it as an expressive tool is hard for me now.
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And that's challenging to me, since I've always hated auto-tune. For so long, it was almost purely used to fix bad singing, so trying to appreciate it as an expressive tool is hard for me now.
Basically, if someone's voice sounds like it's being filtered through glass then you should probably stop worrying about whether or not they can actually sing. At that point autotune is just a sonic effect and should be judged on how well it accentuates the music.
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Basically, if someone's voice sounds like it's being filtered through glass then you should probably stop worrying about whether or not they can actually sing. At that point autotune is just a sonic effect and should be judged on how well it accentuates the music.
I was a big fan of Ozzy's solo material back in the day. He can't sing for ****, but sometimes you can get by on the character of a voice instead. I'm a big Megadeth fan and we all know how good of a singer Mustaine is. I think I'm basically advocating for letting your voice be what it is and not try and cover it up. I'm not sure it would work for Yachty, but maybe? At least it wouldn't sound like what everyone else is doing.
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I was a big fan of Ozzy's solo material back in the day. He can't sing for ****, but sometimes you can get by on the character of a voice instead. I'm a big Megadeth fan and we all know how good of a singer Mustaine is. I think I'm basically advocating for letting your voice be what it is and not try and cover it up. I'm not sure it would work for Yachty, but maybe? At least it wouldn't sound like what everyone else is doing.
That's pointless though. Music isn't about bragging rights. If Artist A can sing well but Artist B can't, but Artist B using autotune sounds better than Artist A, then Artist A's singing ability is irrelevant.

And letting your voice "speak" for you is nonsense if your voice doesn't have the sound you're looking for while autotune does. Just do whatever makes the sound you're looking for. And I'm certain Lil Yachty wants the sound autotune gives him.
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That's pointless though. Music isn't about bragging rights. If Artist A can sing well but Artist B can't, but Artist B using autotune sounds better than Artist A, then Artist A's singing ability is irrelevant.
We don't disagree on that. I think the only important thing is how it sounds and feels in the end.

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And letting your voice "speak" for you is nonsense if your voice doesn't have the sound you're looking for while autotune does. Just do whatever makes the sound you're looking for. And I'm certain Lil Yachty wants the sound autotune gives him.
Yeah I get it, I'm just not really so into the way it sounds.
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We don't disagree on that. I think the only important thing is how it sounds and feels in the end.



Yeah I get it, I'm just not really so into the way it sounds.
I hated that **** too for a long time. Maybe you'll get over it and be able to rock out to the Lil Boat Mixtape as hard as I do. You won't be less happy.
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I hated that **** too for a long time. Maybe you'll get over it and be able to rock out to the Lil Boat Mixtape as hard as I do. You won't be less happy.
We'll see. I never say never.
It's not like I expected to like Lady Gaga and Kylie Minogue as much as I do either.
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