Me. I swore to never use Apple again.

nobody is anti hannah diamond

No doubt I'm failing to appreciate it for what it is. If there's a sub-genre of pop where this counts as a good album, I'm steering clear of it. It's not a neighborhood I feel at home in.

Meh, if you were exposed to it more I doubt you'd feel so strongly about it.

I have no doubt there's less annoying artists in the genre. But there's a world full of music and I can't give equal chances to everything. Dance oriented pop in general just isn't where I'm going to spend my energy.

It's a little annoying how everything has to be Frown's way. Maybe you like it, we don't. Just accept that and stop trying to tell us we're wrong because you don't agree with the major consensus here. People with taste like ISB, Mord and Psy hate it, so you can't just say it's me or MicShazam being little bitches. You know the score: if someone hates something (having listened to it) you're not going to change their mind by telling them you think they're wrong. Nea likes it, talk to him. But leave us alone: we hate it and will continue to hate it no matter what you say, why not just accept that? Sometimes an album isn't for everyone (unlike Curtis two weeks ago) and that's just how it is. Stop trying to push your opinion down everyone's throat as if it were the only one. Muchas gracias compadre.

I just want something more than "I don't like it because it's bad." This is an album club, let's actually talk about the album. If you approach it like a bunch of curmudgeons, then that's part of what's up for discussion. I don't even like the album ftr, I just think you guys dislike it for really stupid reasons or reasons that you fail to explain.

Anyway request denied.

Sometimes that's all you can say really.

Also, (in red) I never expected any other response from you.

Nah, you can say much more than that. If you can't, work on communicating your opinions.

Anyway check the edit.

We hate it because it's **** and worse than having teeth removed. There's not much else to be said. What do you want: a twenty-page thesis explaining why we hate it? Think of it as a Marillion album if that makes you feel better: would you go into deep detail as to why you hate any of their albums, or a Phil Collins, or anyone else you hate? You hate it, that's it. Move on. Lots more to listen to.

What about it makes you think that?

I want discussion and coherent thoughts on the album. I guess I was mistaken when I thought that was the premise of this thread.

Not to mention that it's way easier to talk about music that I dislike than music I enjoy.

I explained all in my review. We're not required to write any more or less than we want to, and as you seem to hate rules, there's no rule that says I, or anyone else, have to justify their hatred, love or impression of any album to you or anyone else. I'm not interested in discussing it any further, no more than I wish to describe in flowery prose the last dump I just took. Your own review was shorter than mine, so I don't actually know what your beef is.

Ja you definitely shouldn't implement that rule, it's stupid and no one will follow it. What does that have to do with anything though?

I guess it was more directed towards the mords and kind, but you jumped in to defend them (eight hours after the fact). Unless you were talking about my discussion with MicShazam, which was a decent music discussion, so I don't actually know what your beef is.

I can understand wanting more in depth discussion in the album club, but I'm not sure what to really say about this album.

First off, I hope it's clear that my original "review" was not exactly an attempt at taking it seriously. I chose to just make fun of the album, which is why there's several dumb jokes in there, but I didn't actually sit and fume with rage in my chair (nor am I implying any of it actually was funny). I really dislike the album, but not in an ill-natured way.

So, if I'm going to take it a bit more seriously, what would I say? One thing that I've been thinking about is how music can easily come down to something so subjective that it's hard to talk about. For this album, it seems to me that it's primarily an aesthetic thing that gets in the way for me. I like pears better than apples - but why? I don't know, because they taste better. But why? Well, I don't know. Because I experience them as tasting better because that's just how my brain works.

On that level, the Nadia Oh album is like a glass of cold lemonade with a load of mayonaise on top: A completely unwanted combination of elements that is profoundly unappealing to me. So I go "Eww, that's gross! I'd rather eat chewing gum off the sidewalk than have any more of that!".

So how do I say anything more elaborate about how I don't like the album?

I guess it comes down to the fact that I (seem to) primarily look for beauty and emotional resonance in music. Even in extreme metal, in some odd way. The Nadia Oh album just comes off as brash and completely ugly to me. Like a dirty, wet plastic bag on the grass in the park. If I listen to Nile, I find beauty in the guitar patterns and the ways those dark chords ring out against the rumbling bass and pummeling drum patterns. It's like some sort of grimey, gothic building. Beautiful and impressive in it's own way. This Nadia Oh album, on the other hand, just comes off as completely aesthetically unappealing to me. And emotionally, I don't feel anything but vague irritation at those brash, annoying synth melodies that appear here and there and the low-effort vocals drenched in auto-tune.

I don't like how my attempt at explaining my dislike of the album comes off as somewhat pretentious, but that's the only way of trying to put it into words.

Basically, it all comes back around to the fact that I just don't like anything about how it sounds or feels.

I'll have a bit more to say about albums that I like more, or albums that are a bit more in my wheelhouse, but this one is just a complete 180 from who I am as a music listener.

I thought your initial review explained it well tbh.

I'll just add this John Cage quote in response to the rest of your post about aesthetics.

“The first question I ask myself when something doesn't seem to be beautiful is why do I think it's not beautiful. And very shortly you discover that there is no reason.”

Taking that and applying it to the album and ones like it that are out of my realm, I ask What does this album have to offer? This album has some really nice drum sounds throughout imo. That's about all the positives I can think of in regards to the record apart from the inoffensiveness of it.

I suppose it would be a good idea to always try and find something positive to say. To pick an album apart into it's individual components and point towards the thing you don't think is completely broken.
Maybe even the opposite as well. To try and find something that could be better in an album you love. Especially if it's your own pick for the week. Just to try and see another side of it.

I find talking about music to be far harder than talking about other art forms like movies, for example. It's so abstract, especially when I don't really tend to care much about the words being sung.

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If it bothers you, be a better member. Club and forum.

Not my thing, however not the worst I've heard by far - I'd much rather listen to this than Taylor Swift or Katie Perry. At least Nadia isn't pretending to be a real singer. In fact I think this album is most successful when she gives a deadpan spoken delivery over some EDM, like in Jump out the Window. My favourite track on the album would be Amsterdam, which feels to me like early 90s Roland 909 driven techno. Other tracks I found difficult to sit through - Beauty and the Beast and others just lacked any kind of atmosphere to me. I will say this album is more pleasant than getting your nuts nailed to the floor, which is more than I can say for many albums, so that elevates my score to
3/10

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If I were at a dance club dancing with a retarded by drunkenness cutie. My dick getting hard. Her pussy getting wet. Yeah . . . but instead I'm soft as a sock, sober, not even in the mood to wank. If there's an edge to hang onto I missed it. Liked Jump out the Window

Could be wrong time and place **

First thoughts are what the **** have I gotten myself into? This represents so many of the worst elements of early 2010s electro-pop that I genuinely wonder whether this is in earnest or some sort of drunken parody.

It's pretty obvious that Nadia Oh is completely talentless. Her autotuned vocals are either a stylistic choice or used to hide her lack of vocal talent. Or both. *shudders* Anyway, her delivery is just as bad. A poor singer such as Kim Gordon can give a performance worthwhile if it has feeling behind it. Unfortunately, Nadia has no feeling whatsoever, she sounds bored if anything.

The songwriting and lyricism on this album is... um, well it seems almost nonexistent. The songwriting at least is probably just whoever produced these albums screwing around in a cheap DAW. The lyrics are generally repeated, sometimes to the point where it's literally just the same couple of words over and over again. (Is that you? Is that you? Is that you? Is that you? Is that you? Is that you? Is that you? Is that you? Is that you? Is that you?) Yeah, they're pretty ****.

The production I already discussed a bit but I'll say more: it's awful. This may be the worst production I've ever heard on an album. The mixing is awful, all of the synths are lame and dated, the drums are so obviously mixed. And despite being ridiculously annoying, practically nothing about the production is even slightly intriguing. Okay, perhaps a couple songs have something interesting to do, but a couple is all. Most of the songs steal themes quite obviously from other locations as well.

Don't have much more to say so I'll just start a list of things I hate about this album:

$wag, "you make me want to jump-jump out the window", Swag, "BITCH", all of the basic Spanish phrases to make you believe this album is even remotely latin, her spectacularly awful auto-tuned voice, "I feel so E-erotic...", Swag, the awfully mixed drums, "take your money, we gon take your money", Swag, "Nadia Oh" at the start of half of the songs, and $WAG.

1/10 At least Brokencyde has passion.

Literally the bottom of the list:

KISS - Destroyer
Nadia Oh - Colours

Nadia Oh - Colours

Not the worst electro-pop I've ever heard (since Nadia throws in an actual melody now and then), but it's not that good either. Like a watered down, trapified version of She or Perfume or even Ke$ha from the same time period, though I'm sure there are better comparisons.

Nondescript songs aside, the biggest problem really is the lack of production variety. If you want to do an electro-pop record, you have better have more than one or two synth leads and some juicy hooks. When the best you can come up with as a club banger is 'DJ's Girlfriend' then you know there's a problem.

This might be a secret 10/10 for Batlord or somebody, but I'll give it a 4 out of 10.

If this is the most hated record yet congrats Goofle

I think this album is great. I don't think one should listen to this album with an austere parochial mindset. After a second listen the one thing I would change in my original review is that I think that this album is aimed at the 20-something crowd lyric-wise instead of teenagers. The lyrics are about the club scene, but they are not propping it up as a perfect life-style. More like what can go wrong in a club. There are so many parts that make fun of staple EDM tricks, that rotfl. I honestly found them very humorous. I really enjoyed the second time around. Thanks for the pick Goofle! :thumb:

Cheers bro.

I'd like to just say that the song "Taking Over the Dancefloor" has been stuck in my head for the last couple of days. Everytime I hear "we swagington" in my head I can't help but laugh out loud. Also, if this album had a bit more of the experimental elements, such as on the track "Amsterdam", it would have been at least a 7. Unfortunately, the good bits are drowned in bubblegum bull****, which is intolerable.

Because it's the best song you've ever heard.

Oh so I guess that was my mistake.

Yeah: get outside the parish, MicShazam! :laughing:

Never!

And if I can't be severe or strict in manner or attitude when listening to my music, then what's the point?

I'm gonna make you guys cry tears of peppermint rainbows next time round.

Nothing can be worse than Dr. Bombay. Do your worst!

Del The Funky Homosapien - Dr. Bombay

That's not bad actually. I like hip hop better when it's funky and silly.
Almost feel like something Prince could have made.

Have you heard Deltron 3030?

Of course not. I know nothing about hip hop.

Pretty rad (albeit a bit dated) release with Del the Funky Homosapien. Worth checking out

Better than most that I've heard. I might give the album a spin.