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Trollheart 10-07-2017 05:10 PM

The Album Club: "Da Pacem" by Arvo Pärt
 
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Next up. Discuss and review here.

Frownland 10-07-2017 05:17 PM

Which recording of the composition are we reviewing? That can make a huge difference.

GD 10-07-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1880535)
Next up. Discuss and review here.

The thread title is misspelled FYI

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1880542)
Which recording of the composition are we reviewing? That can make a huge difference.

It’s a specific compilation titled Da Pacem.

and btw I figure I’ll join in on this if nobody minds. This comp has been sitting in my listening list for a while.

Zhanteimi 10-07-2017 05:27 PM

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RiPS 10-07-2017 05:34 PM

Da Pacem - Arvo Part


This is one of the first things I actually have liked from the album club.

This is amazing background music, but that's pretty much all I think it would be good for.

I'm kinda iffy about giving this four stars, but hey, I'll go with it.

Four stars.

Zhanteimi 10-07-2017 05:38 PM

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Trollheart 10-07-2017 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gigantic Debaser (Post 1880547)
The thread title is misspelled FYI

Dammit. Frownland, would you? Thanks.
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It’s a specific compilation titled Da Pacem.
Is it Da Pacem Domine? That's the only one I can find on Spot. If not, can someone link me please?
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and btw I figure I’ll join in on this if nobody minds. This comp has been sitting in my listening list for a while.
Sure, welcome along.

RiPS 10-07-2017 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1880564)
I swear we don't talk about these albums.

lol

This album just seems too good for three and a half stars, hence the four.

GD 10-07-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1880567)
Is it Da Pacem Domine? That's the only one I can find on Spot. If not, can someone link me please?

I think the full title is Arvo Pärt: Da Pacem with Arvo Pärt listed as artist as well.

Trollheart 10-07-2017 05:53 PM

Thanks, Frownman! :thumb:

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Originally Posted by Gigantic Debaser (Post 1880574)
I think the full title is Arvo Pärt: Da Pacem with Arvo Pärt listed as artist as well.

Thanks. Got it now.

Zhanteimi 10-07-2017 05:54 PM

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Trollheart 10-07-2017 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1880582)
Arvo Pärt is the correct spelling. Frown?

Also, "pacem" should be lowercase. Frown?

I'm not sure, but I don't think accents and things can be put into a thread title?

OccultHawk 10-07-2017 05:58 PM

It is on Spotify and it is the one with the cover art displayed thoughtfully by Mord.

When I made the pick I didn't realize it's a compilation so thanks for pointing that out Debaser.

If I had examined it closer I probably wouldn't have chosen a compilation but in this case it's probably fine to showcase different eras from the composer. If it's all you ever listen to at least you'll get some kind of overview. In general, I think compilations are bad form for this club but whatevs. We're under way! I've listened to it a couple times on Spotify but I never read up on it. I think I remember this composer being discussed on MB before. I may have even discovered him here. Obviously, I'm not any sort of expert on this music myself. Thanks people!

Zhanteimi 10-07-2017 05:59 PM

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GD 10-07-2017 05:59 PM

It’s technically still misspelled since there’s an ‘a’ where there should be ‘ä’.
/pedantry

edit: for some reason I missed the thread going on to the second page. Oops

Zhanteimi 10-07-2017 06:00 PM

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innerspaceboy 10-07-2017 06:00 PM

[Disclaimer] Please permit me to preface with an apology for missing out on last week's featured LP. (A Waits record, no less!) My girlfriend was in the country to visit me and we rebuilt my server together so I was duly unavailable.

But on to this week's epically beautiful record!

Da Pacem has got to be my favorite release on the Harmonia Mundi label. I was first introduced to their catalog via the 20-volume Century series which explores the history of song from the ancient world to the present. I was delighted to find Pärt's Da Pacem on the label knowing that the production quality and musicianship would be top notch, and I was not disappointed. (The recording was issued in SACD format in Germany but only as a standard compact disc stateside.)

The recording is a fantastic specimen of minimalism, of choral music, sacred music, or simply as a demo disc for lossless / SACD demonstrations. To the best of my understanding, this is Pärt's most critically-acclaimed composition, and the Estonian Philharmonic Chamber Choir recording is lauded as the finest version available.

The music might be described as glacial in many respects. It is slow but its stillness is captivating. It is grand in scale but immensely humble. Its rootless melodic quality creates an ethereal listening experience. It is at once cerebrally meditative yet emotionally striking.

Da Pacem is easily one of my favorite choral works. It is an absolute delight to review as part of the Album Club.

10/10

OccultHawk 10-07-2017 06:10 PM

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My girlfriend was in the country to visit me and we rebuilt my server together
Nice!!! Unfortunately, I've been stuck doing a lot of solo work on my "server" recently.

Nice that someone with some background knowledge is here to educate on my pick as well. You know your ****, dude, that's for damn sure.

Your boy Waits got SLAMMED last week, btw, heehee.

Zhanteimi 10-07-2017 06:19 PM

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innerspaceboy 10-07-2017 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1880597)
Nice that someone with some background knowledge is here to educate on my pick as well. You know your ****, dude, that's for damn sure.

Thanks! Cheers for the stellar selection.

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1880604)
Where's she from? How did you two meet?

Thanks for asking. We're keeping things fairly quiet for now, but when I can share details I will.

OccultHawk 10-07-2017 07:07 PM

I definitely want to know everything she did for your server.

Oriphiel 10-08-2017 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1880582)
Arvo Pärt is the correct spelling. Frown?

Also, "pacem" should be lowercase. Frown?

My balls hurt. Frown?

Trollheart 10-08-2017 05:14 AM

My cats' trays need to be cleaned out. Frown?

OccultHawk 10-08-2017 06:24 AM

Sorry y'all. He's busy sucking my dick right now.

Anteater 10-08-2017 08:29 AM

Estonian Philharmonic Chamber Choir/Paul Hillier - Da Pacem (by Arvo Part)

About as good an interepretation of Arvo Part's work as I've heard over the years, the effect of which comes off as more peaceful / minimalist than some of the other spins I've run across. My favorite aspect of the recording is how the organist is there across pretty much every piece regardless of what movement is happening, very rarely showcased but serving as the foundation for every magnificent surge of choral brilliance. The chords all connect together in a vary natural yet understated fashion, so you could call it an observation of Landini cadence in a traditional setting. Or as we say in South - "that's purdy".

In regards to personal preference, I'm more a Third Stream / ambient jazz kind of guy. But you'd have to have serious issues to rate this thing as anything less than an 8.

Frown?

10 out of 10

Trollheart 10-09-2017 05:17 AM

Yeah, nothing more to add that hasn't already been said. Very relaxing, immersive music, very grand and sweeping and majestic. Kind of made me feel I was at a mass. Is this a mass? Stirring stuff anyway, and very enjoyable.

9/10

Zhanteimi 10-09-2017 05:19 AM

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Trollheart 10-09-2017 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1881068)
Not a mass.

For that...


Hmm. Certainly put me in mind of one. Maybe it was all the deep, sonorous organ work.

Zhanteimi 10-09-2017 05:30 AM

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MicShazam 10-09-2017 09:24 AM

In case anyone can't find it, this is the Spotify link for the album: https://open.spotify.com/album/58r3ejz6GxgFszg49ZxuKp
Weirdly, it appears twice in the artist discography, completely identical. Must obviously be a mistake.

Trollheart 10-09-2017 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1881071)
We don't sing the Salve Regina and the Magnificat during a normal Mass.

You forget, I'm a filthy apostate. Apparently.

MicShazam 10-09-2017 09:49 AM

The Album Club: "Da Pacem" by Arvo Pärt
It's pretty, of course, but I can't help but feel pretty bored here. Some of the songs interest me more than most of them do, but it honestly feels like the same choral dynamic repeated across a whole album with very little variation. Religious music like this was never really intended to be actively involving anyway as such. I guess it's supposed to inspire feelings of connection with God or something. It's very pretty, it really is, but it also bores me. Too much of the same thing and I didn't find most of the psalms to be all that memorable.
The most melodically active and therefore most interesting psalm was Psalm 117. Of course just my personal reaction.

5/10 - fine, I guess, but I won't return to it.

EDIT: It's also a cultural thing, probably. If you grew up with this, you're going to have more of a connection with these psalms than I do. I prefer Danish psalms, since I grew up with them and feel that they are part of my cultural background in some way that matters, even though I'm an atheist.

Trollheart 10-09-2017 10:17 AM

Once again MicShazam ruins the vote! :laughing:

MicShazam 10-09-2017 12:04 PM

Everyone else here seems to be more into stoned church music than I expected. I feel bad pissing all over something so old and culturally important, but if I'm not feeling engaged by it, that's how it is. Sorry to commit blasphemy on every nearly unanimously liked album. I swear I'm not being a contrarian on purpose.

OccultHawk 10-09-2017 12:08 PM

You're good. Just keep doing you.

Trollheart 10-09-2017 12:11 PM

Yeah. The last thing we want is
https://www.memecreator.org/static/i...es/4561726.jpg

Zhanteimi 10-09-2017 03:26 PM

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Trollheart 10-09-2017 05:22 PM

I prefer Son of Psalm personally.

Neapolitan 10-09-2017 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1881309)
I prefer Son of Psalm personally.

Psalm people have can't resist a pun.

Zhanteimi 10-09-2017 05:36 PM

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