What makes music cheesy?

**Frownland** · 10-20-2017, 02:59 PM

I'm with elph that Dio is super cheesy too.

The Batlord · 10-20-2017, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I'm with elph that Dio is super cheesy too.

Of course Dio is cheesy. He's also fantastic. Cheesy is not a synonym for bad.

**Frownland** · 10-20-2017, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Of course Dio is cheesy. He's also fantastic. Cheesy is not a synonym for bad.

Duh.

rubber soul · 10-20-2017, 03:04 PM

A lot of prog bands would be considered cheesy by some. Rick Wakeman did something called the Six Wives of Henry VIII. From what I remember that one went over real well with the critics

~~MicShazam~~ · 10-20-2017, 03:08 PM

I usually feel prog is cheesy as hell, but I don't even know what the word means anymore.

**Frownland** · 10-20-2017, 03:10 PM

Vibrato is almost always cheesy because it's such a straightforward thing to do that it's been run down by millions of boring artists.

The Batlord · 10-20-2017, 03:14 PM

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Vibrato is almost always cheesy because it's such a straightforward thing to do that it's been run down by millions of boring artists.

I'll always hate Wpnfire for pointing out that Ron Rinehart from Dark Angel did it constantly in Time Does not Heal. One of my favorite thrash albums but now that I keep thinking about it it really does kind of irritate me cause it seems so cheap. Every single line he does it. **** Wpnfire.

~~MicShazam~~ · 10-20-2017, 03:17 PM

No. Just no. Vibrato is a singing technique that is used in countless genres for all sorts of expressions. It's like saying chords are cheesy or something.

Anyone who thinks this is cheesy is living in some gray, colorless universe I wouldn't want to visit.

**Frownland** · 10-20-2017, 03:45 PM

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No. Just no. Vibrato is a singing technique that is used in countless genres for all sorts of expressions. It's like saying chords are cheesy or something.

Vibrato is also incredibly easy, and artists who heavily rely on vibrato usually do so because they're not talented enough to use other techniques and approaches without them being a crutch.

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Anyone who thinks this is cheesy is living in some gray, colorless universe I wouldn't want to visit.

I didn't listen to it, but I wouldn't say that cheesy and bad are inherently the same thing. They are for me, but that's because of my taste, not the definition of cheese.

The Batlord · 10-20-2017, 03:53 PM

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Vibrato is also incredibly easy, and artists who heavily rely on vibrato usually do so because they're not talented enough to rely on other techniques and approaches.

I didn't listen to it, but I wouldn't say that cheesy and bad are inherently the same thing. They are for me, but that's because of my taste, not the definition of cheese.

I remember reading that there was a conflict between American and European opera singers about whether or not vibrato was desirable or not. Basically Americans liked vibrato and Europeans thought it took away from the purity of technique. Don't know why vibrato won out or if it just won out in America or whatever. But it interested me.

10-20-2017, 02:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I'm with elph that Dio is super cheesy too. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Vibrato is almost always cheesy because it's such a straightforward thing to do that it's been run down by millions of boring artists. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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rubber soul Call me Mustard Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Pepperland Posts: 2,642	A lot of prog bands would be considered cheesy by some. Rick Wakeman did something called the Six Wives of Henry VIII. From what I remember that one went over real well with the critics

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~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,636	I usually feel prog is cheesy as hell, but I don't even know what the word means anymore.

10-20-2017, 03:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,636	No. Just no. Vibrato is a singing technique that is used in countless genres for all sorts of expressions. It's like saying chords are cheesy or something. Anyone who thinks this is cheesy is living in some gray, colorless universe I wouldn't want to visit.