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Frownland 12-20-2017 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1906557)
Maybe, but it just sounds so terribly aged.
Some of it, but even then it stands out quite a bit if you know what to listen for.

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And I completely disagree. Listen to Black Ken half of that is the Trout Mask Replica of 80's styled rap.
How you gonna harp on El-P for being influenced by Public Enemy when you go around saying things like this? I'll listen to it though.

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It's just ****ing weird and he knows it's ****ing weird.
I don't have that kind of faith but it's not like it matters anyway. It's not that I'm picturing the expression on his face, I can hear it.

Machine 12-20-2017 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1906564)
Some of it, but even then it stands out quite a bit if you know what to listen for.



How you gonna harp on El-P for being influenced by Public Enemy when you go around saying things like this? I'll listen to it though.



I don't have that kind of faith but it's not like it matters anyway. It's not that I'm picturing the expression on his face, I can hear it.
Nah I'm cool with boom bap and 80's hip hop that's some of my favorite stuff. But the underground backpacker stuff has just aged like milk compared to other stuff.

Frownland 12-20-2017 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1906567)
Nah I'm cool with boom bap and 80's hip hop that's some of my favorite stuff. But the underground backpacker stuff has just aged like milk compared to other stuff.
Haha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Early hip hop can't even use a walker it's aged so poorly. Underground hip hop in the Def Jux vein has been run into the ground, but I wouldn't say that El's has aged very drastically.

Machine 12-20-2017 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1906568)
Haha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Early hip hop can't even use a walker it's aged so poorly. Underground hip hop in the Def Jux vein has been run into the ground, but I wouldn't say that El's has aged very drastically.
See I just disagree there. I'd rather listen to some SLick Rick than El-P or Aesop Rock or something.

Frownland 12-20-2017 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1906569)
See I just disagree there. I'd rather listen to some SLick Rick than El-P or Aesop Rock or something.
Musically, Ace doesn't have much to offer.

Neapolitan 12-20-2017 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1906568)
Haha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Early hip hop can't even use a walker it's aged so poorly. Underground hip hop in the Def Jux vein has been run into the ground, but I wouldn't say that El's has aged very drastically.
How early is "early?" 80s? 90s?

Frownland 12-20-2017 07:56 PM
680s. **** these sing songy priests.

Ninetales 12-20-2017 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1906548)
el p > company flow >> run the jewels > killer mike
damn. near opposite for me wowza

Trollheart 12-21-2017 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1906514)
I've never heard anything by him that I thought was even close to acceptable.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1906515)
Then listen.
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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1906520)
OK, so he may not be to everyone's taste, but have you heard these, for example:
The Overly Dramatic Truth, Stepfather Factory, Tougher Colder Killer, or Tasmanian Pain Coaster?
If you have and still come away cold, then there's no hope. :D
For all my total n00bness with hip-hop, hell, even I was blown away by I'll Sleep When You're Dead. It was so ... different. So intense and I think I said almost metal at one point? But who the hell would listen to me anyway? But yeah, I'd definitely be a passenger on that train rather than watch it hurtle by me, wondering where it was going and if everyone on board was having a better time than me.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-21-2017 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1906620)
damn. near opposite for me wowza
damn dude first time you've let me down

Frownland 12-21-2017 09:36 AM
I honestly don't think that it's fair to put Mike on that ranking. Can we at least agree that Cannibal Ox>Company Flow?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-21-2017 09:39 AM
i'm gonna say yeah even tho i like company flow a more. i just haven't spent enough time with Cannibal Ox. gonna try and rectify that soon.

Frownland 12-21-2017 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1906768)
i'm gonna say yeah even tho i like company flow a more.
http://www.newstalk.com/content/000/...ulti_630x0.jpg

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-21-2017 02:27 PM
a bit more*

i was listening to Cannibal Ox's debut today, better than i remembered, even though i remembered it being pretty great. will revisit this opinion in the coming weeks.

Cuthbert 12-21-2017 02:52 PM
Iron Galaxy and Pigeon are ****ing unbelievable.

The beats are two of my favourite Hip-Hop beats of all time.

Just awesome.

If you buy the CD you get the instrumentals with it.


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