Exo

Not sure what updates have happens so I'll retract my "alleged" if it is now obvious. That was besides the point anyway.

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Frownland

Doesn't matter, I'm officially on the hunt for the most rapey and paedo-y Brand New lyrics I can find.

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Justthefacts

For once I agree with you, But at the same time I find it difficult the rest of the band didn't have any inkling of this at all. I still listen to Brand New though fuck ya'll haters.

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Exo

I grew up with the bassists cousin. Told me they had no idea but honestly who the f*ck knows. Oh, and Science Fiction will make my end of year list.

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Paedantic Basterd

Or quit listening to music just to be safe.

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It's still all I can think mabout now if I listen to their music. It's the same problem I have with lost Prophets. All I can think about is the terrible crimes commited. Not the music itself.

I read people saying that about Chris Benoit matches too. And all I can think is "how?" I mean the dude murdered his family and it doesn't bother you to watch his wrestling matches?

*shrug* Maybe I'm the only one who gets bothered by this stuff.

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Paedantic Basterd

Personally I think the focus of this entire thing is off track. We should hate Jesse Lacey because he's an ******* and he treats women like ****. Which is not news if you ever once paid attention to this band at any point during their career. If we want to hate him for sending dick pics to a 14 year old when he was 23 then I've got some news for you: You'd better stop listening to music entirely, just to be safe.

EDIT: Also, to clear this up for Qwerty and Exo:

They're still allegations. The only thing he admitted was that he's a huge cunt. Other than that, it's all rumours and unsubstantiated accusations.

Frownland

Wait, 14? Was she a late bloomer? Because if not then maybe OP can still listen to Brand New after all.

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Paedantic Basterd

The allegation in question was made by a woman who was then 14 when the "relationship" began. He'd send her dick pics, ask for nudes, and jerk off on skype. The relationship continued for a number of years and she believed he was in love with her, but he was actually just a massive cunt. A decade later she decided she regretted the whole thing and came out with the story. All of the allegations that followed, to my knowledge, have been along the lines of "I met him once and he seemed like a creep", but actually cited no crimes committed apart from being a jerk.

In the wake of this massive global polarization that's occurring, people have lost sight of the difference between non-consent and regret, and honestly, that's what this looks like to me. She consented to the relationship well past the magical age of consent that everyone is hung up on in this story.

I've done **** I've regretted at literally every age I've ever been and have never tried to take any recourse, nor has a magical adulthood fairy come down from the sky and granted me the wisdom to make good choices in life. I'm not saying he isn't a bastard, I'm just saying that I think people are outraged by the wrong aspects of this story and that I'm getting sick of rumours and stories being equated to facts before a fair and unbiased evaluation of the information.