Bands similar to Brand New but who arent pedophiles
 

HELLO.

I come here in search of a band similar to Brand New in terms of songlyrics and writing-style whatever you call it and preferably musically as well with which I refer mainly to their albums that came after the first one so kind of dark, gloomy and emotional but still rock. It has to be a NON-PROBLEMATIC band as far as everyone knows. Some other bands I listen to are Muse, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Biffy Clyro, Royal Blood, MCR, just some examples to give a clue as to what my taste in music is.

A non-paedo pop punk band? You might want to find a new genre.

That's what I was suspecting. Oh well.

lol I was (half) joking. I'm sure Qwertyy or another member who's more into the genre can point you in the right direction.

are you talking more early brand new or the devil and god are raging inside me era brand new

In other words, old Brand New or new Brand New? :)

Don't crucify the rest of the band because one dude is an alleged pedophile.

It’s not like it changes their music.

ehhh i think we're past the allegation point by now

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Not sure what updates have happens so I'll retract my "alleged" if it is now obvious. That was besides the point anyway.

Doesn't matter, I'm officially on the hunt for the most rapey and paedo-y Brand New lyrics I can find.

For once I agree with you, But at the same time I find it difficult the rest of the band didn't have any inkling of this at all. I still listen to Brand New though fuck ya'll haters.

I grew up with the bassists cousin. Told me they had no idea but honestly who the f*ck knows. Oh, and Science Fiction will make my end of year list.

Or quit listening to music just to be safe.

It's still all I can think mabout now if I listen to their music. It's the same problem I have with lost Prophets. All I can think about is the terrible crimes commited. Not the music itself.

I read people saying that about Chris Benoit matches too. And all I can think is "how?" I mean the dude murdered his family and it doesn't bother you to watch his wrestling matches?

*shrug* Maybe I'm the only one who gets bothered by this stuff.

Me Vs. Maradona Vs. Elvis

Personally I think the focus of this entire thing is off track. We should hate Jesse Lacey because he's an ******* and he treats women like ****. Which is not news if you ever once paid attention to this band at any point during their career. If we want to hate him for sending dick pics to a 14 year old when he was 23 then I've got some news for you: You'd better stop listening to music entirely, just to be safe.

EDIT: Also, to clear this up for Qwerty and Exo:

They're still allegations. The only thing he admitted was that he's a huge cunt. Other than that, it's all rumours and unsubstantiated accusations.

Wait, 14? Was she a late bloomer? Because if not then maybe OP can still listen to Brand New after all.

The allegation in question was made by a woman who was then 14 when the "relationship" began. He'd send her dick pics, ask for nudes, and jerk off on skype. The relationship continued for a number of years and she believed he was in love with her, but he was actually just a massive cunt. A decade later she decided she regretted the whole thing and came out with the story. All of the allegations that followed, to my knowledge, have been along the lines of "I met him once and he seemed like a creep", but actually cited no crimes committed apart from being a jerk.

In the wake of this massive global polarization that's occurring, people have lost sight of the difference between non-consent and regret, and honestly, that's what this looks like to me. She consented to the relationship well past the magical age of consent that everyone is hung up on in this story.

I've done **** I've regretted at literally every age I've ever been and have never tried to take any recourse, nor has a magical adulthood fairy come down from the sky and granted me the wisdom to make good choices in life. I'm not saying he isn't a bastard, I'm just saying that I think people are outraged by the wrong aspects of this story and that I'm getting sick of rumours and stories being equated to facts before a fair and unbiased evaluation of the information.

Cool. My post was more referring to how paedophelia is an attraction to prepubescent children as opposed to...uh...pubescent children.

Old Brand New (YFW/Deja) style bands: Martha, Bad Astronaut, Say Anything, Modern Baseball, Northstar, Taking Back Sunday, The Get Up Kids, The Promise Ring, Joyce Manor, Prince Daddy and the Hyena, Saves the Day, Jimmy Eat World, Reggie and the Full Effect

New Brand New (Devil and God) style bands: As Cities Burn, Sorority Noise, Moose Blood, Prawn, The Hotelier, Title Fight, La Dispute, Midwest Pen Pals, Mineral, Finch, Turnover, Hum, Far, Brave Little Abacus, The Newfound Interest in Connecticut, On the Might of Princes

Modest Mouse's The Moon and Antarctica.

Jfc

within days of the allegations he made a post on the band’s facebook page.



that strikes me as someone admitting to their mistake, albeit in an a bit of a self centred way. regardless, it’s changed my opinion of him. not that i hadn’t heard rumours of his behaviour before, it’s just different once it becomes reality.

Oh yeah ****. I didn't even think about the non-emo bands.

I mean, he admitted that he's an ******* and a philanderer, but he did not expressly admit that her story was entirely truthful. His comment kind of spans a lifetime of general dickery. I'm just saying that it is not acceptable to read between the lines of what people say when it comes to matters like this and then to burn them at the stake for what we think they really meant.

This is exactly how I feel with the whole sexual harassment issue going on.

Citizen too, even though they kinda built themselves up as being second-rate Brand New.

Still good ****, the new album isn't bad either. (I'd skip album #2 though)

Devil and God era.

Jesse is the frontman... and bandmembers are usually friends and pretty close I doubt the rest knew nothing. Plus i'd rather not listen to the voice of a pathetic pedophile.

Um EXCUSE ME? The MANIPULATION started when she was underage and you don't just magically realize "oh wow I am being manipulated" once you reach age of consent people are in relationships being abused and don't realize until years later looking back at it how bad it was and that is not called "regret" it's called waking up and seeing what was going on because the brainwashing has finally wore off. Don't even try it.

It's not like any person who isn't a complete **** and too far up a bands ass to see straight could go ahead and listen to some pathetic peodphile trying to victimize himself in his songs and knowing that he was brainwashing some 14 year old while writing the song and that the lyrics are most likely at least to some extent about an underage girl he's trying to get into the panties of.

Band suggestions please if you want to discuss and try to defend a pedophile just because his music is so amazing he has to be supported regardless of his actions, please make a new thread for that. And give me band suggestions please or shut it.

I think you only read what you felt like reading there. At no point did I deny that he's a fuckface.

And if you can't handle an open and honest discussion, you're welcome to go somewhere else for your recs.

Hmm if you want music made by sanctimonious twats that you can relate to better, try U2.

I assume Gary Glitter is out for the OP then.

HAHAHAHAHA welcome to Music Banter. If you don't enjoy certain personalities arguing about **** you my as well just leave and in that case not go anywhere else, it's like you've never been on an internet forum before.

If you're not gonna listen to Brand New because their singer did something retarded 10 years ago then more power to you, but don't expect people to spoonfeed you because you're having a dumbasss moral quandary over whatever music you listen to. Just go to rateyourmusic and look at charts.

I repeat JFC man. Sorry if this is harsh, but wake the **** up man and realoize no one actually cares about some rando flipping his **** that his favorite singer might not be the best person in the world. Get over yourself.

Can I crucify the rest of the band for making boring music?

I think half of the entire 70s rock scene might be out of the question.