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Old 12-27-2017, 11:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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They should’ve kept Pink. It was wrong what they did.
Did you ever read about how bad it had gotten towards the end? Both live and in the studio? Dude had become a massive liability and refused to budge an inch.

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Sorry, shout out to big Dave.
Don't assume that Marsh (RS Sucks) is the only other one either. Been following Floyd for over 40 years and absorbing everything I can about them.
Stuff adds up after a while.
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He didn't have to work with a whole band
That’s a good point.

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Did you ever read about how bad it had gotten towards the end? Both live and in the studio?
Yes.

I love Waters era Floyd.

Maybe with AI they’ll be able to recreate what Floyd would’ve been if they didn’t break up the band.
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Maybe with AI they’ll be able to recreate what Floyd would’ve been if they didn’t break up the band.
On a side note, I got the concert DVD Pulse as an xmas present this year. Recorded mid 90s at Royal Albert Hall. Disc II is the entire Dark Side of the Moon.
It's really good, lighting is amazing, great playing and they nail all of the parts. The girl that sung GGITS was spine tingling.

But...... Waters gave Floyd an edge that was missing here.
I have a copy of the famous 1977 Oakland show from the Animals tour and you can immediately hear the difference.
Waters was the knife's edge to that band.

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I have that bootleg, too.
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Old 12-28-2017, 02:07 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Can only really pick two, the deaths of the two big hitters in 2016. Those are the only ones where 1) I was bothered and 2) I was alive at the time.

Lennon's death must have been unbelievable at the time.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:29 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Can only really pick two, the deaths of the two big hitters in 2016. Those are the only ones where 1) I was bothered and 2) I was alive at the time.

Lennon's death must have been unbelievable at the time.
It was. Even now, I'm not over it. That was a bigger and tragic moment for me than 9/11 was. It was my ultimate 'where were you' moment. In my case it was watching Monday Night Football when the local station had a scawl on the screen saying that ex- Beattie (he misspelled Beatle) had been shot. Ten minutes later Cosell came on with the announcement he was dead on arrival.

So that was number one for me too.


2. Kurt Cobain's suicide (I don't think he was mentioned yet)

3. Bon Jovi (on a lighter note- he and Eddie Van Halen could have been brothers).

4. Van Halen's Jump (mainly because it inspired my stupid cousin to jump off peoples' cars at the time)

5. Sinead O' Connor's love affair (not!) with the Pope.
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Old 12-28-2017, 06:27 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I´m sure we all agree that the real worst moments are the deaths, illnesses and addictions that musicians have sustained, and that a sudden death at a young age is far worse than an old guy's death that is seen coming by doctors. With that in mind, my list might be:-

1. The plane crash that killed Buddy Holly and others, which Janszoon recently posted about in this thread: http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/90...ng-places.html
2. John Lennon's death, which shocked a rather innocent, post-war generation and taught them that even mega-talent and stardom does not make you invulnerable to a bullet
3. Poor Amy Whitehouse, who has a thread dedicated to her somewhere
4. I'm putting Keith Moon and Brian Jones together, because their deaths were only ten months apart, and I want some space for...
5. Jeff Buckley, whose death occured under particulary poignant circumstances:-
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Actually five is clearly too small a number because I haven't yet mentioned:-
Nick Drake whose sleeping pill overdose may well have been accidental, having forgotten if or how many pills he'd already taken.
Duanne Allman who had only just hit his true musical stride when he died. Of all the "what if..." losses to music, his is the one that I am most convinced would've been excellent.
And lastly Robert Wyatt, who fell out of a hotel window while drunk and became paralysed from the waist down at the age of 28.

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I think Waters obviously did a lot for the band, but I think that Syd could have brought them to further levels and brought some more flavours to the picture than were already there. Major what if because I think he would have gone weird with schizophrenia regardless, but I don't think he would detract from it.
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Did you ever read about how bad it had gotten towards the end? Both live and in the studio? Dude had become a massive liability and refused to budge an inch.
^ I agree with both of these things about Syd Barratt, and one of the saddest things about his story is this rumour: that he lived for a while in a London suburb with a couple who imagined that they could free his psychedelic genius by giving him LSD. Supposedly, for about a month, they put LSD in his breakfast drink every morning without telling him. If true, can you imagine what that must've done to a guy whose mind was already teetering on a dangerous edge?
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I think Hendrix's death is worse than all of those except for Bonham because he had so much more to offer that could have changed everything we know about rock.
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Actually Brian Jones died in 1969 and Keith Moon in 1978. Both sad events to be sure though.

Jones did die the year before Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin (two weeks apart I think) and two years before Jim Morrison. All four I think are in the infamous '27' club that also includes Cobain and Amy Winehouse.

I don't think anyone's mentioned Elvis Presley yet either. That was also a big deal and they were doing news reports out of Graceland for days.

Yeah, there were a lot of rock n roll moments that sucked.
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^ oops! I was a little too hasty with my fact-checking on wiki. Thanks!

Hendrix, Joplin, Cobain, Presley..... yes, there is a long, long list of casualties.
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