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OccultHawk 12-27-2017 07:50 PM

Your top 5 worst rocknroll moments
 
Dave Mustaine

John Lennon murdered

Tool becomes a band

Pink Floyd ditches Syd

Several Dylan records

Akai 12-27-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1908964)
Tool becomes a band

I'm triggered.

The Batlord 12-27-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1908964)
Dave Mustaine

Also triggered.

Maajo 12-27-2017 08:00 PM

This thread

Dylan

Dylan

Dylan

Dylan & Dylan

Frownland 12-27-2017 08:00 PM

*Dave Mustaine decides that he's a good vocalist

OccultHawk 12-27-2017 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1908971)
This thread

Dylan

Dylan

Dylan

Dylan & Dylan

That’s six.

OccultHawk 12-27-2017 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1908962)
In no particular order

David Lee Roth performs Jump with a country band
The choir
U2
Glam
Slipknot performs on letterman

Ftr

OccultHawk 12-27-2017 08:22 PM

Nope

Blank. 12-27-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1908972)
*Dave Mustaine decides that he's a good vocalist

Much more accurate.

Frownland 12-27-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1908987)
invalid list

What about

The first time a drunk dude shouted "rock an roll!"
Everyone's inability to imitate Randy Rhoads without sounding cheesy as ****

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/494c6912c9...sts-ap40cx.jpg

The millennial whoop
Twelve bar blues

Franco Pepe Kalle 12-27-2017 08:42 PM

The Beatles died in 1970
Death of John Lennon
Heavy Metal coming in
Ted nugent
punk rock

Justthefacts 12-27-2017 08:47 PM

Pssh, easy.

Audioslave
Ashlee Simpson
and Morrissey obviously.
and Morrissey
& Morrissey

Machine 12-27-2017 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1908964)
Dave Mustaine

John Lennon murdered

Tool becomes a band

Pink Floyd ditches Syd

Several Dylan records

1) Great musician

2)

3) Great band

4) They were better without him

5) Yeah fair

Frownland 12-27-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1909002)
3) Great band

Terrible influence. That's the hit to rock.

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4) They were better without him
Nah if they matured together and Syd didn't fry his brain I would put my money on them being a lot better.

Chula Vista 12-27-2017 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1908964)
Dave Mustaine
Pink Floyd ditches Syd

Mustaine and Syd ditched themselves.

Worst 5 deaths?

- John Lennon
- John Bonham
- Richard Wright
- Chris Cornell
- Kevin Buckley

Frownland 12-27-2017 09:22 PM

Wow I woulda took you for a Bonham fan, Chula.

Chula Vista 12-27-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909003)
Nah if they matured together and Syd didn't fry his brain I would put my money on them being a lot better.

Oxymoron alert!!!!

Frownland 12-27-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1909008)
Oxymoron alert!!!!

*Evolve. Whatever Reagan.

Chula Vista 12-27-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909007)
Wow I woulda took you for a Bonham fan, Chula.

Moments of my heroes dying.

Blank. 12-27-2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1909010)
Moments of my heroes dying.

Oh. That makes more sense. I could of swore you were a Soundgarden fan.

Chula Vista 12-27-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909009)
*Evolve. Whatever Reagan.

Syd beginning to experiment with drugs is the spark that put Floyd on their path. Him getting heavier into them gave us Astronomy Domine. At that point he was losing it though and Waters had come into his own as a writer.

And even if he hadn't burnt out and become incapable of performing anymore, the team of Waters and Gilmour had taken over and didn't need him.

Not that they were happy about the decision *cough* WYWW.

Frownland 12-27-2017 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1909013)
Syd beginning to experiment with drugs is the spark that put Floyd on their path. Him getting heavier into them gave us Astronomy Domine. At that point he was losing it though and Waters had come into his own as a writer.

Experimenting with drugs isn't the same as frying yourself out on them.

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And even if he hadn't burnt out and become incapable of performing anymore, the team of Waters and Gilmour had taken over and didn't need him.

Not that they were happy about the decision *cough* WYWW.
Nah, they definitely could've needed him. WYWH is a great example of that.

Chula Vista 12-27-2017 09:45 PM

Says you. All of the classic 70's albums would have suffered with Barrett trying to elbow in on Waters' amazing visions.

Frownland 12-27-2017 09:49 PM

Don't take Roger's word for it. I think Waters obviously did a lot for the band, but I think that Syd could have brought them to further levels and brought some more flavours to the picture than were already there. Major what if because I think he would have gone weird with schizophrenia regardless, but I don't think he would detract from it.

Paul Smeenus 12-27-2017 09:51 PM

I'm really not able to put together a top 5, well, bottom 5, but I do believe that it would include the murder of Dimebag Darrell.

Frownland 12-27-2017 10:02 PM

So who apart from Dimebag and Lennon were assassinated? I think Dime might be the only mass shooting.

Being murdered in personal disputes etc doesn't count just for the sake of the topic.

OccultHawk 12-27-2017 10:04 PM

If Barrett was so fried why is his solo work so Brilliant?

Floyd is great band but God we’re they a bunch of dicks. They pull a runner on Syd and then always claim it was some bull**** acid overdose. They were right in the heart of LSD culture and then use it as an excuse for ditching the dude that wrote their original hits. Then they treat Richard Wright like a hired hand. They were absolute pricks.

Chula Vista 12-27-2017 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909026)
Don't take Roger's word for it.

Don't assume that that's where I get all of my information from.

OccultHawk 12-27-2017 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1909037)
Don't assume that that's where I get all of my information from.

They should’ve kept Pink. It was wrong what they did.

Frownland 12-27-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1909035)
If Barrett was so fried why is his solo work so Brilliant?

He didn't have to work with a whole band.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1909037)
Don't assume that that's where I get all of my information from.

Sorry, shout out to big Dave.

Chula Vista 12-27-2017 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1909041)
They should’ve kept Pink. It was wrong what they did.

Did you ever read about how bad it had gotten towards the end? Both live and in the studio? Dude had become a massive liability and refused to budge an inch.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909044)
Sorry, shout out to big Dave.

Don't assume that Marsh (RS Sucks) is the only other one either. Been following Floyd for over 40 years and absorbing everything I can about them.
Stuff adds up after a while.

OccultHawk 12-28-2017 12:06 AM

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He didn't have to work with a whole band
That’s a good point.

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Did you ever read about how bad it had gotten towards the end? Both live and in the studio?
Yes.

I love Waters era Floyd.

Maybe with AI they’ll be able to recreate what Floyd would’ve been if they didn’t break up the band.

Chula Vista 12-28-2017 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1909065)
Maybe with AI they’ll be able to recreate what Floyd would’ve been if they didn’t break up the band.

On a side note, I got the concert DVD Pulse as an xmas present this year. Recorded mid 90s at Royal Albert Hall. Disc II is the entire Dark Side of the Moon.
It's really good, lighting is amazing, great playing and they nail all of the parts. The girl that sung GGITS was spine tingling.

But...... Waters gave Floyd an edge that was missing here.
I have a copy of the famous 1977 Oakland show from the Animals tour and you can immediately hear the difference.
Waters was the knife's edge to that band.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Xz5yF9Q3my...AnimalTray.jpg

OccultHawk 12-28-2017 02:01 AM

I have that bootleg, too.

Cuthbert 12-28-2017 02:07 AM

Can only really pick two, the deaths of the two big hitters in 2016. Those are the only ones where 1) I was bothered and 2) I was alive at the time.

Lennon's death must have been unbelievable at the time.

rubber soul 12-28-2017 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1909068)
Can only really pick two, the deaths of the two big hitters in 2016. Those are the only ones where 1) I was bothered and 2) I was alive at the time.

Lennon's death must have been unbelievable at the time.

It was. Even now, I'm not over it. That was a bigger and tragic moment for me than 9/11 was. It was my ultimate 'where were you' moment. In my case it was watching Monday Night Football when the local station had a scawl on the screen saying that ex- Beattie (he misspelled Beatle) had been shot. Ten minutes later Cosell came on with the announcement he was dead on arrival.

So that was number one for me too.


2. Kurt Cobain's suicide (I don't think he was mentioned yet)

3. Bon Jovi (on a lighter note- he and Eddie Van Halen could have been brothers).

4. Van Halen's Jump (mainly because it inspired my stupid cousin to jump off peoples' cars at the time)

5. Sinead O' Connor's love affair (not!) with the Pope.

Lisnaholic 12-28-2017 06:27 AM

I´m sure we all agree that the real worst moments are the deaths, illnesses and addictions that musicians have sustained, and that a sudden death at a young age is far worse than an old guy's death that is seen coming by doctors. With that in mind, my list might be:-

1. The plane crash that killed Buddy Holly and others, which Janszoon recently posted about in this thread: http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/90...ng-places.html
2. John Lennon's death, which shocked a rather innocent, post-war generation and taught them that even mega-talent and stardom does not make you invulnerable to a bullet
3. Poor Amy Whitehouse, who has a thread dedicated to her somewhere
4. I'm putting Keith Moon and Brian Jones together, because their deaths were only ten months apart, and I want some space for...
5. Jeff Buckley, whose death occured under particulary poignant circumstances:-
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On the evening of May 29, 1997, Buckley's band flew to Memphis intending to join him in his studio there to work on the newly written material. The same evening, Buckley went swimming in Wolf River Harbor, a slack water channel of the Mississippi River, while wearing boots and all of his clothing and singing the chorus of the song "Whole Lotta Love" by Led Zeppelin.
Actually five is clearly too small a number because I haven't yet mentioned:-
Nick Drake whose sleeping pill overdose may well have been accidental, having forgotten if or how many pills he'd already taken.
Duanne Allman who had only just hit his true musical stride when he died. Of all the "what if..." losses to music, his is the one that I am most convinced would've been excellent.
And lastly Robert Wyatt, who fell out of a hotel window while drunk and became paralysed from the waist down at the age of 28.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909026)
I think Waters obviously did a lot for the band, but I think that Syd could have brought them to further levels and brought some more flavours to the picture than were already there. Major what if because I think he would have gone weird with schizophrenia regardless, but I don't think he would detract from it.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1909063)
Did you ever read about how bad it had gotten towards the end? Both live and in the studio? Dude had become a massive liability and refused to budge an inch.

^ I agree with both of these things about Syd Barratt, and one of the saddest things about his story is this rumour: that he lived for a while in a London suburb with a couple who imagined that they could free his psychedelic genius by giving him LSD. Supposedly, for about a month, they put LSD in his breakfast drink every morning without telling him. If true, can you imagine what that must've done to a guy whose mind was already teetering on a dangerous edge?
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And lastly, to anyone who has put "Dylan" on their list, you are invited to post something in this thread so that I can report you to the mods immediately ;):
http://www.musicbanter.com/country-f...bob-dylan.html

Frownland 12-28-2017 06:30 AM

I think Hendrix's death is worse than all of those except for Bonham because he had so much more to offer that could have changed everything we know about rock.

rubber soul 12-28-2017 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1909081)
4. I'm putting Keith Moon and Brian Jones together, because their deaths were only ten months apart, and I want some space for...



Actually Brian Jones died in 1969 and Keith Moon in 1978. Both sad events to be sure though.

Jones did die the year before Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin (two weeks apart I think) and two years before Jim Morrison. All four I think are in the infamous '27' club that also includes Cobain and Amy Winehouse.

I don't think anyone's mentioned Elvis Presley yet either. That was also a big deal and they were doing news reports out of Graceland for days.

Yeah, there were a lot of rock n roll moments that sucked.

Lisnaholic 12-28-2017 06:42 AM

^ oops! I was a little too hasty with my fact-checking on wiki. Thanks!

Hendrix, Joplin, Cobain, Presley..... yes, there is a long, long list of casualties. :(


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