It’s not snobbery; it’s religion.

Religion is snobbery. And I thought you were an atheist anyway? Church of the Holy Jazz?

As a matter of fact, there is a Church of Saint Coltrane in San Francisco. Supposedly they play jazz music during mass. It must be a blast.

I bet Occult and Frown are ordained ministers, licenced to chill.

No, Frown would be at the church of Beefheart :D

I'd visit it but I don't think I'd go to a service. I am ordained to marry folk though.

To Country or Jazz? Or are you one of those staid ministers who will only marry Folk to Folk? Racist. :p:

In the early 90s when I tried to get some of their
Coltrane church t-shirts to resell in our store, they
were so incredibly incompetent that it was like
pulling teeth just trying to get them to send product
that they had promised to send. There was always
somebody else who was "handling all that" and
that person was always "out at the moment."
Finally, after months of calls and letters, the
shirts arrived and the sizes and quantities were
all screwed up. I found one for myself and pretty
much lost money on the others. What an ordeal.

Their website gets a little cornier each year.

Now I want to hate it twice as much just to annoy you.

If you do, it will be the only thing that I play in plug if we're ever there together.

As far as getting into the genre goes, have you heard Eric Dolphy's Out to Lunch! or Sonny Sharrock's Ask the Ages?

It's a risk I'm willing to take. :laughing:

I have not heard. Are you recommending them to me because you think I will like them, or are you recommending them because you think I should like them? Haha.

Yes.

They're both rather accessible imo and Ask the Ages can probably help you understand Coltrane better since it has Elvin Jones and Pharoah Sanders on it and Sharrock's guitar playing is very saxophone-esque. Definitely return to this album (and the rest of Coltrane's free work) if you start appreciating those records. Coltrane's earlier work is also much more accessible.

This one's underrated imo

Okay, I'll take 'em.

Red Garland kind of saves the day there; you can tell Coltrane was inspired by Garland’s solo because he responds so well to it.

Thought this was a good thread to post this in.



Also I had a Coltrane analysis video on in the background and I thought that he was playing to it because it worked pretty well tbh.

Also who did it better



Jesus the Carpenter - Dearly Beloved/Summertime

Don't worry I got you covered. I am not 100% sure, but I recall voting 10/10 twice for this album, maybe it didn't take first time idk. Maybe it's the Madela effect, who knows? Unless the other two teners come forward I voted twice!

Glad you and Frownie liked the video clip of Elvin Jones.

No such thing, or if there is it would be impossible for a human to justifiably say so.

Is that a yes to Johnny Smith too? One of my favorites on the album is Cherokee - it's a standard needless to say.

Johnny Smith - Cherokee