What Sucks about This Artist?: Rolling Stones Edition
 

Basically even if you like the Rolling Stones just tell us something that you think is garbage about them. If this works out we can do threads for other specific artists.

I love early Rolling Stones (debut is the best straight up rock n roll album ever) but those albums from their "classic" period where they mess around with country are really dull. Having lost my nut on stuff like Townes Van Zandt, Willie Nelson, and Waylon Jennings all those Rolling Stones albums just feel like shallow experimentations that fail both as rock and country, so what the **** is even the point? I imagine the people that love that **** so much probably either don't listen to country or got into it after the Rolling Stones. They can still burn down the house with more rock oriented songs, like "Brown Sugar, but even then they have a certain polish that makes them feel too squeaky clean.

To this day I am intensely bored by the Rolling Stones.
Sympathy For The Devil is a great song though.

That wasn't in rhyme.

Oh ****, I forgot. I'll reschedule for the next day I'm drunk.

I tried getting into them awhile back. Someone here recommended me Beggars Banquet i think it was called but it was sorta meh, couldn't get into it.

Suppose I knew a cool party chick in college. When we bumped into each other at parties and shows she was almost always up for a ****. She liked great music and was cool in every way. One time a few years after we graduated I ended up broke but she was married and doing alright. I called her to ask if I could borrow 20 bucks to buy some groceries and she gave me a grand and insisted it was a gift.

Now you want me to say what was **** about her. **** that. I’m not thinking up ways to **** on the UNASSAILABLE Rolling Stones after how much they’ve done for me.

They made the most visceral violent rock’n’roll ever and I ****ing worship them like gods.

Mother****er

Totally agree. Beggar's Banquet is not the intro album. If anything I'd say it was Aftermath. It's got more class than their earlier albums while still having balls. I'd say it's everything great about the sixties with none of the self-indulgent hippy tripe or self-indulgent rock star faux-experimental schlock. They're writing their own songs finally, writing great songs, and showing a maturity you'd never expect from the band who covered "Route 66". But of course if you're woke like me you'd understand that the band who covered "Route 66" were rock n roll gods who didn't need to mature in the first place. And of course you should go for the UK versions in general, but an argument could be made for the US version since it actually has "Paint It Black" (but it also doesn't have "Mother's Little Helper" and that song is amazing).

Aftermath UK version


Aftermath US version


Translation: I do in fact have serious criticisms about them but I'm a ****ing pansy.

I just straight up don't enjoy Mick Jagger's singing voice.

I mean now you can just go **** yourself. The man could sing just about any kind of song and still sound like the beating heart and soul of rock n roll while making it sound easy.

They’re gods dude. You don’t **** with that.

Yes you do. You say whatever you feel is true like a true punk rock elphenor.

I know Sonic Youth told me to kill my idols but I love them too much.

Even I'll call Slayer out for Kerry King being a blatant homophobe.

Fun fact: Kerry King is also a homophone

That one was decent but this one is better.



Save your time buddy. Honestly i have no interest in diving into their discography. Im not in the hunt to get into every band that have been important to the history of rock. I don't have anything against their status it's just their sound is not very appealing to me.

Oh **** it about to go down.

Nothing but love for the OG but Devo's version is my favourite.

That's cool but the debut and Aftermath are still great records you should give time for if nothing else. I don't have much time for a lot of the Rolling Stones but those early records are still massive.

Okay.

The first 4 albums they did with Jimmy Miller are 100% pure gold. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't fully understand rock'n'roll.

You probably just don't understand country.

They were the first British band that successfully fused American music with gritty Brit R&R. Country, Gospel, R&B, Pop, and Chicago Blues all done with a British swagger.

Rolling Stones = Greasy Rock.

Country was such a small piece of the puzzle. You focusing on it re-enforces the fact that you simply don't understand it. **** off.

Church

The Rolling Stones made better Americana than Townes Van Zandt.

Chula - just no. That’s so ****ing wrong.

I love a lot of what they did. I just didn't like those four albums you're talking about cause they felt like skin deep experimentations with country. But please tell me more about their press releases that you masturbated to.

The funny thing is even though Chula is right about how great those records are your comments express a better understanding of what those records are.

It reminds me of the LZ and the blues conversation.

How the **** can you love something so much and still not ****ing get it?

Honestly I think the Rolling Stones were just having a bit of fun with country and not trying to truly experiment. They never sounded like they were taking their flirtations with the genre at all seriously. That's all well and good I suppose but it had the effect of boring the snot out of me. I was too high on Townes and Willie to settle for tourists. Maybe I'll change my opinion at some point.

I love that Devo cover to absolute bits and it's a brilliant song that almost no one can touch, unless its the Rolling Stones playing the original. That **** is just massive and raucous and all the catchy.

As far as their early stuff goes I agree. 50s rock n roll was perfected by those early British R&B bands and the Stones were the height. The Animals and Small Faces made amazing **** that eclipsed Berry, Presley, and Richard, but the Stones absolutely nailed the core of rock n roll to an extent that's been touched by the Sonics and the Stooges but never been potentially bettered without adding extra influences.

I wouldn’t describe it as experimental. It’s the way that Americana became such a cornerstone of their essence. From Let It Bleed until like Some Girls country music took a large chunk of the DNA even from songs that didn’t sound country. It’s just in there, like the blues.

It still sounds like frat boys having fun with country to me.

I like The Stones well enough. I have maybe 30 songs or so.

To me, the thing that sucks about the Stones is, they're awful live.

They've always played loose, but live? They're downright sloppy.

Also live, Mick & Keef sing in harmonies unknown to man.

That is weird. The Edge said the same thing in It Might Get Loud (2008). Now you got me wondering if the Edge got that from Sonic Youth.

I felt the Rolling Stones was trying carry on the spirit of Gram Parsons in the way they wrote and played their Country songs. If anything it was Gram Parsons who killed his idols first, and the Stones were paying homage to him. Even if the Stones took the piss out of Country by having fun with it, who cares? It isn't like no one ever written a goofy Country song in all the history of Country music.

Here’s one ****ers:

Sonic Youth are better than The Rolling Stones

I said it
I meant it
I’m here to represent it

There's so many songs on those 4 albums that do not have any country influence. I'll make a list if you'd like.

No thanks.

*inhales*

*exhales*

Close enough. At least this album. This track right here is quite possible the most raw rock track ever set forth. Kim Gordon sounds like hate. Even the intro sets you up to be absolutely startled when the song actually starts.

I still have that on vinyl from the 80s.

I dig that album but that track kind of eclipses the rest of the album for me so that I need to actively make time for the rest. It's just the best ****ing track. The rest is fantastic too though.

there 2 basic and dull IMO

I’m not even sure if it’s my favorite track on that album.

I love everything about it start to finish and I know it like the back of my hand.

Making the Nature Scene has had a profound impact on my mental health. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about that song even when I’m not listening to music. It’s sort of like that song represents one of my secret identities or I have a way of becoming that song.

That’s an album I can listen to in my head completely by memory.

Please do make that list, and annotate it with what genre each song is. Thank you.