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Frownland 05-03-2018 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1946253)
Post Nas that’s irrelevant. That’s a Stevie Ray Vaughn argument.

It would be if SRV made great music or if Hendrix was largely whack except for his guitar playing.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-03-2018 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Akai (Post 1946208)

Some of madlibs best stuff on this thing too.

not even close. it’s a 10 for me as i mentioned but if i absolutely had to pick a flaw it would be that i feel madlib could’ve done a bit more on the production side. listen to any of his Quasimoto album’s and the production is twice as spectacular.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-03-2018 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1946250)
Listen to Earl dude, he took the torch. When it comes to Earl v DOOM it's a wash imo.

x2

earl is what people hail kendrick to be

still waiting on one more project to really cement that though, but everything he’s done from Sly Tendancies forward has been elite.

Goofle 05-03-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1946236)
If y’all understood hip-hop* at all you would realize you’re basically saying is the White Stripes are better than the Stooges.

It’s well done but it doesn’t break any ground. Is Peter Brotzman better than Pharoah Sanders?

Meh.

On a side note, Farrah Abrahams broke new ground in pop music. Is she The Stooges of pop?

And yeah, Brotzmann is better.

OccultHawk 05-03-2018 06:16 PM

I might be wrong about this one.

Black Francis 05-03-2018 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1946432)
I might be wrong about this one.

:p:

Wrong about what, their cred or their music? Did you finally start to get into it a bit?

OccultHawk 05-03-2018 08:13 PM

Wellllllll.... I was actually really enthusiastic about MF Doom & Grimm very early in their careers then my interest tapered off and I ACTUALLY only followed them peripherally but sort of felt like since I was on to it early on I needn’t pay too close attention. So even though this is a pretty old release by the time it came out I kind of figured I already know what it was all about but trying to defend an ambivalent position about this record has kind of painted me into a corner. I could keep pretending I know everything about it or admit that while I have listened to it I really haven’t listened to it closely enough to justify my strong opinions.


I think I better learn up on this one and get back to you kind folks with my typical arrogance after some re-examinations.

Don’t tell anyone.

Janszoon 05-03-2018 08:49 PM

It's been several years since I've sat down and listened to this album, but it's one I absolutely love. To me, there's always been something about it that sounds like a rainy weekend when you're a kid. It makes me think of drinking hot chocolate and eating cookies and watching the waterlogged world go by outside the window. It was also my introduction to DOOM (I was already a fan of Madlib) so it was just great thing all around. 10/10

OccultHawk 05-03-2018 08:51 PM

Can I please get a mulligan?

Frownland 05-03-2018 08:56 PM

^Sure why not


OccultHawk 05-03-2018 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1946457)
^Sure why not


Wow

Maajo 05-03-2018 09:48 PM

I'd give this an 11 if I could - one of the most perfect hip-hop albums ever made, and while both artists have put out some pretty epic releases elsewhere, this is both Madlib and MF DOOM's defining achievement.

Black Francis 05-04-2018 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1946456)
Can I please get a mulligan?

It's all good bruh

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1946250)
Listen to Earl dude, he took the torch. When it comes to Earl v DOOM it's a wash imo.

Nah, it can't be. I listened to some his stuff but his flow to me is so slow and monotonous i couldn't really appreciate his rhymes. I'm basing that on the only album ive heard from him, I don't do sht i don't go outside.

FaSho 05-04-2018 05:59 AM

I believe this may have been the first non 'mainstream' rap album I ever heard, or at least the first that I could really get into, and it definitely opened my eyes to how much different rap could sound than what's played on the radio. Today it remains my 2nd favorite hip-hop record and is undeniably influential on the underground scene of the 00s and even to the present. I think DOOM knew they were making something special here and truly believe he went harder from start to finish than on any of his solo records.

Black Francis 05-04-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 1946499)
I believe this may have been the first non 'mainstream' rap album I ever heard, or at least the first that I could really get into, and it definitely opened my eyes to how much different rap could sound than what's played on the radio. Today it remains my 2nd favorite hip-hop record and is undeniably influential on the underground scene of the 00s and even to the present. I think DOOM knew they were making something special here and truly believe he went harder from start to finish than on any of his solo records.

Which one is your first?

OccultHawk 05-04-2018 07:02 AM

I’m recovering from the Dunning–Kruger effect on hip hop.

Frownland 05-04-2018 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1946474)
Nah, it can't be. I listened to some his stuff but his flow to me is so slow and monotonous i couldn't really appreciate his rhymes. I'm basing that on the only album ive heard from him, I don't do sht i don't go outside.

His flow blows my mind tbh. Twists and turns and crazy rhyme schemes as well.

Oriphiel 05-04-2018 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1946533)
His flow blows my mind tbh. Twists and turns and crazy rhyme schemes as well.

Desperate for flows, his face in a scrunch,
having a munch as he plays Lydia Lunch.

Ninetales 05-04-2018 08:49 AM

(I can understand from a technical standpoint why this is so loved, but it has never resonated with me as much as it seems to with almost everyone else here)

Blank. 07-07-2018 12:07 PM

Listening to this again, I'm enjoying it more than the first time I listened to it but I still just don't feel the music. 5

Average score: 9.23
Votes: 13


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