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The Batlord 05-20-2018 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1953121)
:eek: Wow, he really reminds me of David St. Hubbins from Spinal Tap.

It makes This Is Spinal Tap possibly even funnier.

Blank. 05-20-2018 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953056)
I laughed my damn head off at that interview. The only **** that wasn't true was when he said that Nickelback were the most diverse band in the world. Corey Taylor barely had any response to fire back at Chad Kroeger because he knows it's so true. Oh well poor guy.

This song is interchangeable with Nickelback.

The Batlord 05-20-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1953129)
This song is interchangeable with Nickelback.

You will not trick me into listening to Stone Sour. **** off.

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 08:16 AM

I just wanna add some more to a comment I said earlier about the band Hole. I think I was wrong to criticize Courtney love for stealing fame off of Kurt Cobain. She couldn't help that she just married the biggest rockstar in the world at the time. They had a kid together and really must have been in a loving relationship, I was wrong to suggest that she married him for the sole purpose of getting fame and wealth for herself. I don't think that is true and that is pretty unfair to her and her own music career. I still think that it's obvious that she became famous for only one reason which was for marrying Kurt Cobain. I am not a fan of Hole or Courtney Love's singing voice but I don't think she is a bad person like she is portrayed as in the media.

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 08:38 AM

I still stand by my comment that Hole Suck.

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 10:03 AM

More ****ty and overrated artists.

Marilyn Manson. This guy just talks in a croaky voice while doing a ****ty cover of tainted love and dresses up like a goth woman to get publicity. I can't even believe that he has dated attractive women like Rose Mcgowan and Evan rachel Wood. This guy doesn't have a shred of talent a fact that doesn't seem to bother him at all. All he cares about is getting publicity.

Three Doors Down are a very boring, generic, bland and unoriginal Post Grunge band. Their biggest hits are Kryptonite, Here Without you and Let Me Go. This band is just like the other post grunge bands like The Calling, Fuel, Lifehouse and Puddle of Mud. Very mediocre people doing very boring and unoriginal music.

The Batlord 05-21-2018 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953284)
More ****ty and overrated artists.

Marilyn Manson. This guy just talks in a croaky voice while doing a ****ty cover of tainted love and dresses up like a goth woman to get publicity. I can't even believe that he has dated attractive women like Rose Mcgowan and Evan rachel Wood. This guy doesn't have a shred of talent a fact that doesn't seem to bother him at all. All he cares about is getting publicity.

Three Doors Down are a very boring, generic, bland and unoriginal Post Grunge band. Their biggest hits are Kryptonite, Here Without you and Let Me Go. This band is just like the other post grunge bands like The Calling, Fuel, Lifehouse and Puddle of Mud. Very mediocre people doing very boring and unoriginal music.

I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that "Hanging by a Moment" isn't a phat jam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPnK39ax_AM

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1953286)
I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that "Hanging by a Moment" isn't a phat jam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPnK39ax_AM

Yeah they play that song a lot on the radio. It's not too bad but I wouldn't call it a great song.

Black Francis 05-21-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953275)
I just wanna add some more to a comment I said earlier about the band Hole. I think I was wrong to criticize Courtney love for stealing fame off of Kurt Cobain. She couldn't help that she just married the biggest rockstar in the world at the time. They had a kid together and really must have been in a loving relationship, I was wrong to suggest that she married him for the sole purpose of getting fame and wealth for herself. I don't think that is true and that is pretty unfair to her and her own music career. I still think that it's obvious that she became famous for only one reason which was for marrying Kurt Cobain. I am not a fan of Hole or Courtney Love's singing voice but I don't think she is a bad person like she is portrayed as in the media.

She's no saint either, Billy Corgan mentions banging her while they were both in a relationship. I'm also one of those ppl that think she had Kurt killed cause he was gonna divorce her.

Blank. 05-21-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953275)
I just wanna add some more to a comment I said earlier about the band Hole. I think I was wrong to criticize Courtney love for stealing fame off of Kurt Cobain. She couldn't help that she just married the biggest rockstar in the world at the time. They had a kid together and really must have been in a loving relationship, I was wrong to suggest that she married him for the sole purpose of getting fame and wealth for herself. I don't think that is true and that is pretty unfair to her and her own music career. I still think that it's obvious that she became famous for only one reason which was for marrying Kurt Cobain. I am not a fan of Hole or Courtney Love's singing voice but I don't think she is a bad person like she is portrayed as in the media.

Except that she was. She leached herself onto any Rockstar that she thought was going to be famous. She got lucky with Cobain. She was even screwing around with Billy Corgan for awhile.

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1953299)
Except that she was. She leached herself onto any Rockstar that she thought was going to be famous. She got lucky with Cobain. She was even screwing around with Billy Corgan for awhile.

Well yeah she really won the lottery with Kurt Cobain but they were still in a real relationship and had a kid so I don't think that was faked but maybe her intentions weren't entirely honest from the beginning. I think they were drifting apart in their marriage at that point that she had an affair with Billy Corgan and I heard she was also seeing that singer from the Lemon heads Evan Dando. The thing that changed my mind about Courtney love was watching their home movies in the documentary Montage of Heck. It seemed like the relationship was pretty genuine and that they both were really serious about each other. I could be wrong.

MicShazam 05-21-2018 11:16 AM

Who even knows. I don't think any of you have been inside Courtney Love's head, so this is all pointless speculation.

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1953298)
She's no saint either, Billy Corgan mentions banging her while they were both in a relationship. I'm also one of those ppl that think she had Kurt killed cause he was gonna divorce her.

Maybe like 7 years ago I believed the murder conspiracy of Kurt Cobain but I don't believe it anymore. I don't think Courtney love is capable of such an evil thing like that. I think Kurt Cobain was just in too much emotional pain and couldn't take it anymore, that's what a drug like heroin does to you. Just look at all the other guys in the scene that died as well. What did they have in common? They all did heroin.

Black Francis 05-21-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953309)
Well yeah she really one the lottery with Kurt Cobain but they were still in a real relationship and had a kid so I don't think that was faked but maybe her intentions weren't entirely honest from the beginning. I think they were drifting apart in their marriage at that point that she had an affair with Billy Corgan and I heard she was also seeing that singer from the Lemon heads Evan Dando. The thing that changed my mind about Courtney love was watching their home movies in the documentary Montage of Heck. It seemed like the relationship was pretty genuine and that they both were really serious about each other. I could be wrong.

Im sure she genuinely loved him for awhile but then she got sick of him but still wanted his money. Have you ever seen the Kurt & Courtney movie? Supposedly she offered to hire a guy to whack Kurt.

Black Francis 05-21-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953316)
Maybe like 7 years ago I believed the murder conspiracy of Kurt Cobain but I don't believe it anymore. I don't think Courtney love is capable of such an evil thing like that. I think Kurt Cobain was just in too much emotional pain and couldn't take it anymore, that's what a drug like heroin does to you. Just look at all the other guys in the scene that died as well. What did they have in common? They all did heroin.

I do. It's not that crazy to separate from your spouse and want all their sht and when your former spouse is a millionaire deadbeat dad junkie, why not kill him before he divorces her and dies from an overdose anyway?

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1953321)
Im sure she genuinely loved him for awhile but then she got sick of him but still wanted his money. Have you ever seen the Kurt & Courtney movie? Supposedly she offered to hire a guy to whack Kurt.

I have seen that documentary. That guy called El Duce said that Courtney Love offered him money to kill Cobain. It's pretty hard to take the guys claims seriously though but it was a coincidence that he died shortly after he accused Courtney love of those things. Kinda seems like he was murdered by Courtney Love but I just don't believe it.

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1953326)
I do. It's not that crazy to separate from your spouse and want all their sht and when your former spouse is a millionaire deadbeat dad junkie, why not kill him before he divorces her and dies from an overdose anyway?

It is kind of weird that she inherited all his stuff and even had the rights to his music and all that after she was just married to him for less than two years. But who else would he have left it to. His mom barely gave a **** about him and even kicked him out of the house when he was a teenager and he had to live at a friends house for a year. Then after he got famous she liked him allot more.

Trollheart 05-21-2018 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1953326)
I do. It's not that crazy to separate from your spouse and want all their sht and when your former spouse is a millionaire deadbeat dad junkie, why not kill him before he divorces her and dies from an overdose anyway?

Is this even a thing? I thought a deadbeat dad was one who didn't support his kid(s), presumably because he either has no money or wastes it on himself. Can a millionaire be a deadbeat?
https://e.snmc.io/lk/l/w/3c091264b2a...13/5336040.jpg

The Batlord 05-21-2018 12:02 PM

A little off-topic but Kurt Cobain's daughter grew up foxy. Just thought you should all know.

http://loudwire.com/files/2018/05/Fr...jpg?w=980&q=75

Black Francis 05-21-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1953357)
Is this even a thing? I thought a deadbeat dad was one who didn't support his kid(s), presumably because he either has no money or wastes it on himself. Can a millionaire be a deadbeat?
https://e.snmc.io/lk/l/w/3c091264b2a...13/5336040.jpg

Perhaps i used the wrong term. I think Kurt was an unreliable dad because he was a heavy heroin user. They were a dysfunctional couple cause Courtney used drugs too but when Frances came along i think she was forced to be the responsible one. Obvz i didn't know them personally but there's a scene in Montage of heck where Kurt is smacked out and he has Frances on his lap and that seems like an indication of that.

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953350)
It is kind of weird that she inherited all his stuff and even had the rights to his music and all that after she was just married to him for less than two years. But who else would he have left it to. His mom barely gave a **** about him and even kicked him out of the house when he was a teenager and he had to live at a friends house for a year. Then after he got famous she liked him allot more.

Yea, it's hard to tell what really happened but i don't think it's that crazy to believe she had him killed cause there was a lot to gain from it.

Frownland 05-21-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1953382)
Yea, it's hard to tell what really happened but i don't think it's that crazy to believe him she had him killed cause there was a lot to gain from it.

That's no reason to believe or disbelieve anything.

The Batlord 05-21-2018 12:39 PM

But it's totally legit that the Illuminati killed Tupac, right?

Black Francis 05-21-2018 12:41 PM

No, that was Courtney too.

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1953382)
Perhaps i used the wrong term. I think Kurt was an unreliable dad because he was a heavy heroin user. They were a dysfunctional couple cause Courtney used drugs too but when Frances came along i think she was forced to be the responsible one. Obvz i didn't know them personally but there's a scene in Montage of heck where Kurt is smacked out and he has Frances on his lap and that seems like an indication of that.



Yea, it's hard to tell what really happened but i don't think it's that crazy to believe she had him killed cause there was a lot to gain from it.

You're right she gained pretty much all her wealth from him. I just searched it and she's got a net worth of 150 million dollars, I'm pretty sure that her Hole album sales or her supporting role in Man On The Moon didn't make her all that money.

Blank. 05-21-2018 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953309)
Well yeah she really won the lottery with Kurt Cobain but they were still in a real relationship and had a kid so I don't think that was faked but maybe her intentions weren't entirely honest from the beginning. I think they were drifting apart in their marriage at that point that she had an affair with Billy Corgan and I heard she was also seeing that singer from the Lemon heads Evan Dando. The thing that changed my mind about Courtney love was watching their home movies in the documentary Montage of Heck. It seemed like the relationship was pretty genuine and that they both were really serious about each other. I could be wrong.

Buzz Osbourne, who was a close friend of Cobain's, said that Montage of Heck was 95% bs.

Frownland 05-21-2018 12:59 PM

He's hiding the evidence in his hair.

Black Francis 05-21-2018 01:01 PM

:laughing:

Blank. 05-21-2018 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1953364)
A little off-topic but Kurt Cobain's daughter grew up foxy. Just thought you should all know.

http://loudwire.com/files/2018/05/Fr...jpg?w=980&q=75

She has crazy eyes.

The Batlord 05-21-2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1953408)
She has crazy eyes.

Yes the **** she does. :love:

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1953403)
Buzz Osbourne, who was a close friend of Cobain's, said that Montage of Heck was 95% bs.

I saw Buzz Osbourne say that but I don't know which parts of Montage of Heck he thinks is bull****. Most of the stories that are told in the documentary are old stories that have been around for ages that are in the book Heavier Than heaven and Kurt Cobain About a Son.

Blank. 05-21-2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953411)
I saw Buzz Osbourne say that but I don't know which parts of Montage of Heck he thinks is bull****. Most of the stories that are told in the documentary are old stories that have been around for ages that are in the book Heavier Than heaven and Kurt Cobain About a Son.

Cobain was a habitual liar. I mean the dude was a drug addict. How can anyone trust a drug addict.

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Originally Posted by Buzz on Montage of Heck
First off, people need to understand that 90% of Montage of Heck is bull****. Total bull****. That’s the one thing no one gets about Cobain — he was a master of jerking your chain.

For instance, I know the whole “I tried to **** a fat retard” story is complete bull****. Not even an inkling of truth. That’s too good a story to have gone this long without me hearing about it, especially if, as he suggests, the girl’s father freaked out about it at the high school. In that small-town ****-hole, exciting news of that nature would have been common knowledge before the sun set. It never happened. And the trying-to-kill-himself-on-the-train-tracks story is bull**** as well. It never happened either. There it is, though, told in a recording of Kurt’s own voice so it must be true…right? Wrong.

Buzz Osborne (the Melvins) Talks the HBO Documentary Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck

Black Francis 05-21-2018 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953411)
I saw Buzz Osbourne say that but I don't know which parts of Montage of Heck he thinks is bull****. Most of the stories that are told in the documentary are old stories that have been around for ages that are in the book Heavier Than heaven and Kurt Cobain About a Son.

Did you also listen to the audio tapes from their divorce process? I went into that rabbit hole a long time ago and back then i knew all the details of his murder that pointed to Courtney but i kinda got over it and don't remember that sht now.

Frownland 05-21-2018 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1953414)
Did you also listen to the audio tapes from their divorce process? I went into that rabbit hole a long time ago and back then i knew all the details of his murder that pointed to Courtney but i kinda got over it and don't remember that sht now.

Actual evidence or is it just more plausible motive BS?

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1953413)
Cobain was a habitual liar. I mean the dude was a drug addict. How can anyone trust a drug addict.



Buzz Osborne (the Melvins) Talks the HBO Documentary Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck

Oh well Kurt Cobain must've made up a lot of stories about his earlier life. I don't know why he would make up the fat retard train tracks story, I don't see how that story would help him in any way but he must have liked telling it.

Black Francis 05-21-2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1953415)
Actual evidence or is it just more plausible motive BS?

I don't think you would care either way.

Blank. 05-21-2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953416)
Oh well Kurt Cobain must've made up a lot of stories about his earlier life. I don't know why he would make up the fat retard train tracks story, I don't see how that story would help him in any way but he must have liked telling it.

Because he was a tortured soul that we shouldn't judge too harshly for his drug use because look at how fucked up he was.

I love Nirvana, I listen to their three (four if you count incesticide) albums constantly, but this narrative of him being a tortured soul that was ahead of his time needs to end.

His music was an attempt to sound like the Pixies and he was a drug addict that happened to make good music.

Frownland 05-21-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1953419)
I don't think you would care either way.

Answer b then :laughing:

Nathanblake719 05-21-2018 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 1953414)
Did you also listen to the audio tapes from their divorce process? I went into that rabbit hole a long time ago and back then i knew all the details of his murder that pointed to Courtney but i kinda got over it and don't remember that sht now.

I never heard those tapes. I didn't know they were in the process of getting divorced.

Black Francis 05-21-2018 01:35 PM

I agree with Blank, i love the music he made but i can't romanticize his flaws as a human being.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1953421)
Answer b then :laughing:

Mostly. :p:

Black Francis 05-21-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathanblake719 (Post 1953426)
I never heard those tapes. I didn't know they were in the process of getting divorced.

Yea if i remember correctly sht was about to go down in court. The tapes should still be on youtube if you're interested, i can't go back down that hole.


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