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Old 02-06-2019, 03:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
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The whole point of this thread is to ween Maria off of P4k-core.
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:14 PM   #33 (permalink)
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About Unitron's Motörhead pick: Like Lemmy would always say "we're Motörhead and we play rock'n'roll". They're very popular among metalheads, but should really be considered a rock band. I don't know what Unitron would say, but I think "Overkill" and "Bomber" are two faultless albums by the band.
I respect Lemmy's opinion on them just playing rock 'n' roll, but I do consider them metal. Black Sabbath didn't consider themselves metal either. Overkill and Bomber are good albums, though my favorite Motorhead album is the underrated Sacrifice.

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Old 02-06-2019, 03:17 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I respect Lemmy's opinion on them just playing rock 'n' roll, but I do consider them metal. Black Sabbath didn't consider themselves metal either. Overkill and Bomber are good albums, though my favorite Motorhead album is the underrated Sacrifice.

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They definitely had some stuff that could be called metal, but I'd hold that a good 80-90% of their discography was just punk/hard-rock/rock'n'roll influenced music with an in-your-face sound and Lemmy's vocals + the band's imagery giving them a feel that was palatable to metalheads. Sabbath have metal riffs, Motörhead mostly have rock styled riffs. You can't even find that many palm muted riffs in Motörheads discography and palm-muting is like a metal staple. Very, very few, probably.
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:22 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I’m like the teacher that drank his piss. Literally.
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They definitely had some stuff that could be called metal, but I'd hold that a good 80-90% of their discography was just punk/hard-rock/rock'n'roll influenced music with an in-your-face sound and Lemmy's vocals + the band's imagery giving them a feel that was palatable to metalheads. Sabbath have metal riffs, Motörhead mostly have rock styled riffs. You can't even find that many palm muted riffs in Motörheads discography and palm-muting is like a metal staple. Very, very few, probably.
I get what you're saying, but I have pretty unique definitions of what makes something metal. I consider there to be quite a bit of metal before Sabbath, despite most people disagreeing. So I'll just say we're both right.

Btw: Sacrifice is probably the closest to undeniably metal they got.
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I get what you're saying, but I have pretty unique definitions of what makes something metal. I consider there to be quite a bit of metal before Sabbath, despite most people disagreeing. So I'll just say we're both right.
I'm probably thinking of metal being a bit more of a strictly defined thing. I don't even consider at least the first Sabbath album metal. It's borderline and influential, but really just a bunch of blues rock with darker tones.

But I think I get how you look at it and I don't really have a horse in that race. I just personally think of certain musical properties when I think metal.

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Btw: Sacrifice is probably the closest to undeniably metal they got.
Agreed. It's their heaviest album by far.
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Windsock - like the rythm and groove and the way the sounds interact. After a while it could use some more variation on first listen, but this is interesting
grindy - love it, also wonderful rhytmically and sonically it sort of tickles your ears
unitron - I don't really care for the cosmic psychos song, but I like Black Sabbath a lot. It's the only 'metal' band I'd given a chance besides Led Zeppelin. I like the second Motörhead song less than the first, the engine-like guitar drone and vocals sound more metal in that way I've never cared for. I did really enjoy the guitar solo part though
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